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Lyta_Underhill · 09-22-2003, 11:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Peter Jackson said in the commentary that Lurtz was created so that it wasn't just a random Uruk-hai that killed Boromir - it was a little more honorable to be killed by the great Uruk "general" as it were.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That makes perfect sense, Knight of Gondor. In fact, that was the significance I got out of the scene when I first watched it and one of the reasons Boromir's death meant more to me in the movie than in the book. Mostly, though, it is the visible struggle Boromir is undergoing throughout that brings me closer to him. He was a braggart in the book FOTR and, although I felt bad he had to die, I felt his shortcomings to be emblematic of the weakness of Men and he to be a symbol of their fallen state. It is better that PJ emphasizes his strength and the fact that he fell to the power of the Ring despite his great strength, making his character all the more tragic and identifiable. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> why I wonder do they name him Lurtz and that name is never named in the movie itself?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If you think THAT's bad, just look at all the carefully named characters in a Star Wars movie! They don't name half of them, and yet they all have names and even histories in some cases...then again, I haven't watched the FOTR credits too closely. Maybe every single hobbit at Bilbo's party is named. Who knows? I'll have to go back and watch when I've got the patience. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>altogether Boromir turned out happier and more kindly to the little ones than in the book....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Welcome to the Downs, Beanamir! And thanks for pointing that out! PJ takes pains to show Boromir especially taking interest in Merry and Pippin. It illustrates a point that Tolkien makes through Pippin when he pledges himself to Denethor, "remembering Boromir the Brave." I cannot wait to see Pippin's Minas Tirith scenes in ROTK, and I am quite hopeful they will be powerful, as PJ has set up this visible tie between Merry and (especially) Pippin and Boromir. And yes, I have read the VSD's! ("...thought the Horn of Gondor was supposed to summon the armies of the West...") Cheers, Lyta[ September 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

09-22-2003, 11:10 PM	#17
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Peter Jackson said in the commentary that Lurtz was created so that it wasn't just a random Uruk-hai that killed Boromir - it was a little more honorable to be killed by the great Uruk "general" as it were.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That makes perfect sense, <B>Knight of Gondor</B>. In fact, that was the significance I got out of the scene when I first watched it and one of the reasons Boromir's death meant more to me in the movie than in the book. Mostly, though, it is the visible struggle Boromir is undergoing throughout that brings me closer to him. He was a braggart in the book FOTR and, although I felt bad he had to die, I felt his shortcomings to be emblematic of the weakness of Men and he to be a symbol of their fallen state. It is better that PJ emphasizes his strength and the fact that he fell to the power of the Ring despite his great strength, making his character all the more tragic and identifiable.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> why I wonder do they name him Lurtz and that name is never named in the movie itself?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If you think THAT's bad, just look at all the carefully named characters in a Star Wars movie! They don't name half of them, and yet they all have names and even histories in some cases...then again, I haven't watched the FOTR credits too closely. Maybe every single hobbit at Bilbo's party is named. Who knows? I'll have to go back and watch when I've got the patience. <P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>altogether Boromir turned out happier and more kindly to the little ones than in the book....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Welcome to the Downs, <B>Beanamir</B>! And thanks for pointing that out! PJ takes pains to show Boromir especially taking interest in Merry and Pippin. It illustrates a point that Tolkien makes through Pippin when he pledges himself to Denethor, "remembering Boromir the Brave." I cannot wait to see Pippin's Minas Tirith scenes in ROTK, and I am quite hopeful they will be powerful, as PJ has set up this visible tie between Merry and (especially) Pippin and Boromir. And yes, I have read the VSD's! ("...thought the Horn of Gondor was supposed to summon the armies of the West...") <P>Cheers,<BR>Lyta<p>[ September 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ] __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”