Sapphire_Flame,<P>Re your over-reaction <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> ARGH! DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T!!! TRY to read the books more carefully next time! What in Middle-earth's wrong with you?!?! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I admit I’ve only read LOTR about a dozen times in my 35 years, but I think I understand the books quite well.<P>Let me explain the situation again, and let’s see if you can understand…..<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>There's no doubt a thread somewhere about this, but didn't Pippin actually die? i.e. Gimli 'made sure he was dead' when he pulled him out from under the orc, didn't he?<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>What I mean is this.<P>ROTK, The Black Gate Opens<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>For one moment more Pippin's thought hovered. 'Bilbo!' it said. 'But no! That came in his tale, long long ago. This is my tale, and it is ended now. Good-bye!' <B>And his thought fled far away and his eyes saw no more. </B> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>When you first read the book (if you’ve read it more than once), didn’t you think Pippin was dead? I did, and cried my eyes out.<P>ROTK, The Field of Cormallen<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> ‘And not only Sam and Frodo here’, said Gimli, ‘but you too, Pippin. I love you, if only because of the pains you have cost me, which I shall never forget. Nor shall I forget finding you on the hill of the last battle. But for Gimli the Dwarf you would have been lost then. But at least I know now the look of a hobbit's foot, though it be all that can be seen under a heap of bodies. And when I heaved that great carcass off you, <B>I made sure you were dead</B>. I could have torn out my beard. And it is only a day yet since you were first up and abroad again. To bed now you go. And so shall I.'<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Can you see what I’m trying to say? That maybe Pippin DID die, but was somehow (maybe through the grace of the Valar etc) brought back to life? Indeed, even Sam asks the question of Gandalf on the field of Cormallen<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> ‘Is everything sad going to come untrue? What's happened to the world?' <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>This is why I asked if anyone had raised this point beforehand in a thread.
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