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Lyta_Underhill · 12-31-2003, 02:30 AM

Just a quick note before I must dash off to bed:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>But I had expected them to make ROTK more Sam-centric, especially because of the shift of focus in the books. I don't really feel that they did, though. We really got to see Sam shine in ROTK, but the focus still seemed to remain on Frodo, at least more than I thought it would. Do you all agree, or is it just me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I would suggest that ROTK gave me more of an idea of what it would be like to be Sam, simply because of the focus on Frodo; it is just as Sam's focus would have been, excepting the redone parts that separated them in Shelob's Lair. I found myself understanding Sam better when I saw the effects of the long journey and burden on Frodo. I can say this for the movies; it was a new door to open; I stepped closer to both Frodo AND Sam in those last parts in Mordor. To see Frodo telling Sam about this basically untellable state he is in and to watch Sam gather his last strength in response resonated deeply and I found myself understanding the "hardness" that Sam developed near the end of the Quest and how he could not perhaps deal mentally with the implications of that fact that Frodo is falling apart before his eyes and he MUST do something physically--that leads to his "I can carry you" lines. This scene really brings home the blind hopeless state of things and I can feel the bond between Frodo and Sam intensely here. I cannot say it is a Sean Astin triumph or an Elijah Wood triumph of acting skill; here they blend so well as to transcend any polarity in such comparison. Thus, you cannot have Frodo without Sam, nor Sam without Frodo. Who knows how it would have gone with different actors? I can only be glad that Sean and Elijah were so well matched for this fine moment!<P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta

12-31-2003, 02:30 AM	#47
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	Just a quick note before I must dash off to bed:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>But I had expected them to make ROTK more Sam-centric, especially because of the shift of focus in the books. I don't really feel that they did, though. We really got to see Sam shine in ROTK, but the focus still seemed to remain on Frodo, at least more than I thought it would. Do you all agree, or is it just me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I would suggest that ROTK gave me more of an idea of what it would be like to be Sam, simply because of the focus on Frodo; it is just as Sam's focus would have been, excepting the redone parts that separated them in Shelob's Lair. I found myself understanding Sam better when I saw the effects of the long journey and burden on Frodo. I can say this for the movies; it was a new door to open; I stepped closer to both Frodo AND Sam in those last parts in Mordor. To see Frodo telling Sam about this basically untellable state he is in and to watch Sam gather his last strength in response resonated deeply and I found myself understanding the "hardness" that Sam developed near the end of the Quest and how he could not perhaps deal mentally with the implications of that fact that Frodo is falling apart before his eyes and he MUST do something physically--that leads to his "I can carry you" lines. This scene really brings home the blind hopeless state of things and I can feel the bond between Frodo and Sam intensely here. I cannot say it is a Sean Astin triumph or an Elijah Wood triumph of acting skill; here they blend so well as to transcend any polarity in such comparison. Thus, you cannot have Frodo without Sam, nor Sam without Frodo. Who knows how it would have gone with different actors? I can only be glad that Sean and Elijah were so well matched for this fine moment!<P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”