[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Well, I saw ROTK for the third time not so long ago, and I can confirm that Shelob stung him in about the same area as the scar. And the scar does look Shelob-induced to me (seeing as I paid special attention to that during the Tower of Cirith Ungol, and then had to remember to watch the scene for its emotional content, not just Frodo's scar). When he gets stung, contrary to what happens in the book, he's looking around to see what made a suspicious noise, and he turns 180 degrees, so that Shelob's stinger is perfectly poised to sting him on the right sort of around or below the collar bone. And sting him in that area she does. Although how it got that low without piercing or being deflected by the mithril vest is beyond me......<P>And the hole in the shirt is quite interesting. Maybe we should all go back and watch the Moria sequence a few times really carefully, even though the possibility of the scar coming from a Moria-wound is probably slim.