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Old 05-14-2004, 06:06 AM   #16
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I suppose it depends how 'worship' is defined - certainly there's nothing along the lines of Christian style worship - but there is worship of a kind in both Aman & Numenor. I don't think Eru can be thought of as a 'first mover', as He is clearly involved in the world - if mostly indirectly through the Valar, though He does intervene directly at certain points - as in the destruction of Numenor, &, less blatently, possibly in bringing about the destruction of the Ring.

One thing occurs as I write, & I don't know if it belongs here, or is worth starting a new thread for - in one of the notes to Osanwe Kenta its stated that all foresight comes from Eru - knowledge of the future can only be passed to beings within the world by Eru directly, as only to Him is full knowlege of the future accesible, so Eru must be the source of Frodo & Sam's visions in Galadriel's Mirror. But Galadriel says the Mirror is dangerous as a guide of deeds, because not everything it shows comes to pass. Yet, everything they see in the Mirror does come true, & this time at least, it is showing the truth.

Does this mean that Galadriel's Mirror is functioning differently when Frodo & Sam look into it - but if it is, would that mean their future is fixed from that point & Eru is showing them exactly what WILL happen?

But if the Mirror is only showing 'possible' futures, how come every one of the things they see comes about? If they are seeing the real, actual future, then its source can only be Eru.

So Eru is intervening directly to show them the future by means of Galadriel's mirror?

The implications of this seem quite significant - unless I'm completely wrong in my interpretation.
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