The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - View Single Post

***Mithadan*** · 03-07-2001, 07:49 AM

<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist
Posts: 705</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE>
Re: Gangsta Elves

There certainly is a "Bilbo wrote it and his style was less historical and more fanciful" argument here. That cannot be denied. There is also the "Elves tease dwarves" or "Elves disapprove of dwarves" element. In fact, Elves to a certain extent, look down upon both younger races. Thus one comments that sheep look different from other sheep and mortals are not "our" study, "we" have other affairs.

While reading Gilthalion's fanfic, another inspiration came to me. Rivendell is, to an extent, a hidden enclave of the Elves. Its general whereabouts is known, but its specific location and entrances are not. It is a guarded realm, not unlike Nargothrond. Note that Thorin's company does not actually see the Elves until they choose to reveal themselves. Like as not, most carried bows or other weapons and if the company were orcs or evil men rather than friends, the reception would have been very different. Even an uninvited and unwanted guest would firmly be escorted away. But because the company was made up of friends, their progress was monitored and the Elves could not resist some teasing of members of the "lesser" races (embellished by Bilbo's fanciful hand). Thus the nonsense rhymes, etc. Also remember that the time was far less evil than 60 some years later when Frodo arrived.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

03-07-2001, 07:49 AM	#11
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist Posts: 705</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Gangsta Elves There certainly is a "Bilbo wrote it and his style was less historical and more fanciful" argument here. That cannot be denied. There is also the "Elves tease dwarves" or "Elves disapprove of dwarves" element. In fact, Elves to a certain extent, look down upon both younger races. Thus one comments that sheep look different from other sheep and mortals are not "our" study, "we" have other affairs. While reading Gilthalion's fanfic, another inspiration came to me. Rivendell is, to an extent, a hidden enclave of the Elves. Its general whereabouts is known, but its specific location and entrances are not. It is a guarded realm, not unlike Nargothrond. Note that Thorin's company does not actually see the Elves until they choose to reveal themselves. Like as not, most carried bows or other weapons and if the company were orcs or evil men rather than friends, the reception would have been very different. Even an uninvited and unwanted guest would firmly be escorted away. But because the company was made up of friends, their progress was monitored and the Elves could not resist some teasing of members of the "lesser" races (embellished by Bilbo's fanciful hand). Thus the nonsense rhymes, etc. Also remember that the time was far less evil than 60 some years later when Frodo arrived. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.