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**lindil** · 02-09-2003, 02:39 PM

lindil acknowledges error on Feanor being 'remorseless'.

Sorry for the overstatement.

I think the thing I got hung up on was his wife Nerdanel asking for the youngest of the sons, Umbarto, to stay, and Feanor denying her, and also Feanor, saying that he guessed that Umbarto wished to take a ship back to Valinor.

It will create a subtle but distinct shift in the Silmarillion to not have the twins Amrod and Amras and to not have the 'seven' sons of feanor, but the Six.

It will, whenever they are mentioned collectively [which is suprisingly frequent] have the effect of silently underscoring Feanor's first act in M-E.

As with virtually every elaboration in HoME over the published Silmarillion, there is serious refinement and improvement.

The Shibboleth is truly a gold mine of lore regarding the Noldorin heirs of Finwe.

I just read the footnote 61 re: Maedhros; that he wore a copper band as did his maternal grandfather.

The revised 'of the Princes of the Eldalie' will read very differently and with far more 3 dimensionality, due to the Shibboleth.

By the way Aiwendil, would it not make more sense to place UT between HoME 11 and 12 than at the begining?

Although the chronology [and build up/cross-referencing] of the footnote relationships would breakdown, you would have something far closer to the chronological order; that is supposing one would not just insert the Tuor and Narn sections into HoME 11.

Anyway, I promise to give it a go this summer, God willing.

I suppose you read every etymological entry also!!

[ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]

02-09-2003, 02:39 PM	#42
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	lindil acknowledges error on Feanor being 'remorseless'. Sorry for the overstatement. I think the thing I got hung up on was his wife Nerdanel asking for the youngest of the sons, Umbarto, to stay, and Feanor denying her, and also Feanor, saying that he guessed that Umbarto wished to take a ship back to Valinor. It will create a subtle but distinct shift in the Silmarillion to not have the twins Amrod and Amras and to not have the 'seven' sons of feanor, but the Six. It will, whenever they are mentioned collectively [which is suprisingly frequent] have the effect of silently underscoring Feanor's first act in M-E. As with virtually every elaboration in HoME over the published Silmarillion, there is serious refinement and improvement. The Shibboleth is truly a gold mine of lore regarding the Noldorin heirs of Finwe. I just read the footnote 61 re: Maedhros; that he wore a copper band as did his maternal grandfather. The revised 'of the Princes of the Eldalie' will read very differently and with far more 3 dimensionality, due to the Shibboleth. By the way Aiwendil, would it not make more sense to place UT between HoME 11 and 12 than at the begining? Although the chronology [and build up/cross-referencing] of the footnote relationships would breakdown, you would have something far closer to the chronological order; that is supposing one would not just insert the Tuor and Narn sections into HoME 11. Anyway, I promise to give it a go this summer, God willing. I suppose you read every etymological entry also!! [ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.