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Old 03-22-2001, 12:09 AM   #31
Tar Elenion
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Re: Kings

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Wrong divisions of the Noldor. Look at the passage where Feanor abandons the majority in Araman. The fleet was manned &quot;only by those who had fought&quot; at Alqualonde. That could include some of Fingon's warriors, though not Fingon himself
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Correct divisions. In context the quote reads &quot; it came into the hearts of Feanor and his sons to seize all the ships and depart suddenly; for they had retained mastery of the fleet since the battle of the haven, and it was manned only by those who fought there AND WERE BOUND to Feanor&quot;, emphasis mine. Not only did they have to fight at Alqualonde, they had to be BOUND to Feanor, this would make them 'Feanorians'.


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Unless someone forgot to tell Fingon that Feanor had led the way, it's pretty certain he had a good idea of whom he was helping.
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Fingon went to the aid of his kin. Feanor was his uncle and hence his kin.

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But Fingolfin had not been acknowledged as king or declared to be king, and had not claimed the kingship (or any kingship).
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As I have said Fingolfin was not the King at this time (see above posts). However see the above post for quotes indicating his claims to the Kingship.


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No mention of Fingolfin's kingship or claim to kingship at all. There was only one person claiming to be the heir of the King of the Noldor: Feanor.
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See quotes in above post.

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So it's quite clear that there was ever only one King of the Noldor at a time in Aman: Finwe, and then Feanor.
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Finwe, then two rival claimants to the Kingship. Both claimed the Kingship of all the Noldor. Neither had it until after Feanor died, and Fingolfin was 'elected' (or whatever) by the 'council of princes' and became King of the Noldor.






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