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Re: Kings
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Wrong divisions of the Noldor. Look at the passage where Feanor abandons the majority in Araman. The fleet was manned "only by those who had fought" at Alqualonde. That could include some of Fingon's warriors, though not Fingon himself
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Correct divisions.<hr></blockquote>
No, they are the WRONG divisions because I raised the point and I know darned good and well what I was referring to. I have explained what I was referring to. Thank you for not rewriting what I say.
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Unless someone forgot to tell Fingon that Feanor had led the way, it's pretty certain he had a good idea of whom he was helping.
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Fingon went to the aid of his kin. Feanor was his uncle and hence his kin.<hr></blockquote>
Everyone knew Feanor was in the lead. The book states quite clearly that Fingon thought the Noldor were being attacked, and that included Feanor.
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No mention of Fingolfin's kingship or claim to kingship at all. There was only one person claiming to be the heir of the King of the Noldor: Feanor.
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See quotes in above post.<hr></blockquote>
See response to the quotes.
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So it's quite clear that there was ever only one King of the Noldor at a time in Aman: Finwe, and then Feanor.
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Finwe, then two rival claimants to the Kingship. Both claimed the Kingship of all the Noldor. Neither had it until after Feanor died, and Fingolfin was 'elected' (or whatever) by the 'council of princes' and became King of the Noldor.<hr></blockquote>
No. Finwe, then Feanor.
I'm actually quite satisfied to stay with the text I was discussing originally"
The Silmarillion. Staying in context is the only way to keep any meaning to this discussion.
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Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000101>Michael Martinez</A> at: 3/22/01 2:24:44 am