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Old 07-01-2004, 09:30 AM   #4
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"Either all hope cometh, or our hope's end."
Yes, it's sort of a fifty-fifty chance, isn't it?
That was a very good example, mark12_30, thank you!
Now take for instance Sam: he's an optimist by nature, sometimes really naive in his optimism: I mean, he really has a childish expectance that all will turn out alright, even in the depths of Mordor. But to my mind, his optimism is very different from the 'Elvish' way of 'trusting' (i.e. Arwen's hope). So what sets Estel apart from other sorts of unfounded hope? And is Estel ever proven wrong?

Oh- about that 'personal experience' bit: I realize how this may turn into an off-topic chat, probably making most of you wisely stay away from this thread. So if anyone has any opinions about this that they'd like to share, but which are not strictly Tolkien-related please PM me, because I'm really interested in this. Thanks!
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