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Manwe Sulimo · 12-12-2002, 09:27 PM

Well, since it's here, and since I haven't said anything yet...

There is no possible way that Saruman's ring could be a Ring of Power. Of those, there were only twenty, forged by the Noldor or Sauron himself. Unless the ring Saruman wore was one of the lost Dwarf-Rings, it wasn't a Ring of Power.

He probably made it himself (ergo, "Saruman the Ring-Maker"), but it had no special powers. Saruman's powers were lost when Gandalf broke his staff (since he was killed by Gríma shortly afterwards). The ring was just a petty mockery of Sauron, trying to seem more powerful.

He also obviously made it after he turned evil, since Gandalf saw fit to add that bit into his story; otherwise, everyone in the White Council would've known about it, anyway.

12-12-2002, 09:27 PM	#36
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	Well, since it's here, and since I haven't said anything yet... There is no possible way that Saruman's ring could be a Ring of Power. Of those, there were only twenty, forged by the Noldor or Sauron himself. Unless the ring Saruman wore was one of the lost Dwarf-Rings, it wasn't a Ring of Power. He probably made it himself (ergo, "Saruman the Ring-Maker"), but it had no special powers. Saruman's powers were lost when Gandalf broke his staff (since he was killed by Gríma shortly afterwards). The ring was just a petty mockery of Sauron, trying to seem more powerful. He also obviously made it after he turned evil, since Gandalf saw fit to add that bit into his story; otherwise, everyone in the White Council would've known about it, anyway. __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."