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Old 07-16-2004, 08:15 AM   #47
The Only Real Estel
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I believe, though I am not quite sure, that Grima kills Saruman by pushing him off the tower at Isengard. I'm entirely sure because my sources on many things are unreliable.
Grima stabs Saruman & then pushes him off the tower, Saruman presumably getting his fall broken by one of the spokes & a spiked wheel. Then Legolas kills Grima with an arrow that first soars over his head, then spirals down into Grima's skull even as he laughs at Legolas's 'inaccuaracy' (Grima should've known better ).

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I recall in the film that when Sam came upon the Orcs in the Tower one of the four ran back up the stairs. Was he the one that Sam then skewered because if not then this could be how the news and the shirt got back to Sauron.
If I remember right, they show 4 orcs, but Sam only kills 3. They never show what happened to the 4th orc in the theatrical release, so it would correct an 'error' that I'm sure is listed on many websites if they showed him running away to get the news/mithril shirt out (I know that Gorbag wasn't one of the 4 orcs there on the steps) in the EE.

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Yes, so Estel and Essex reminded me. Thanks for highlighting my ignorance once more.
Oh, can I remind you again!!??

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