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Old 08-05-2004, 06:29 AM   #22
Estelyn Telcontar
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Oh, I thought this thread was dead!
Not if I can help it! I'm continuing with my reading of The Return of the Shadow and intend to keep on with the discussion, though not every chapter has a lot of discussable content. Keeping up with the current CbC thread, I've read Ch. VI, 'Tom Bombadil'. Unfortunately, it doesn't say much about Goldberry; I wonder if what Tolkien wrote about her was more subconscious than conscious. He did however deliberately and early on choose the water-lily motive for her.

Here are a few scattered thoughts about the early drafts:

TB is called an 'aborigine' - interesting word!

Then the question:
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Barrow-wights related to Black-riders. Are Black-riders actually horsed Barrow-wights?
Apparently the nature of the Black Riders was not yet defined; they became Nazgul later on.

Farmer Maggot was originally not a hobbit, but
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a being of a wholly different kind, and akin to Bombadil.
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