Grima's swayage...
I would agree with you Eomer, Saruman could hold a lot of power, since he is known for corrupting, and a persuasive voice. Where Grima, ahhh Grima, was in Saruman's pockets and "poisoned" the mind of the king in some way, but I tend to think it wasn't how the movie portrayed it. Theoden willingly listened to Gandalf, and as I said earlier there was no such "transformation" or "age declining" as the movie shows. I agree, I doubt Grima could have held that much power against Theoden, a few words from Gandalf like "stand up look outside...etc" and Theoden becomes the Theoden we love.
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