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***Gilthalion*** · 04-17-2001, 12:18 PM

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Re: Gildor

Hmmmmph!

You guys are acting like Tolkien was only writing a work of fiction, and NOT actually translating passages from the Red Book!

I am aghast!

Clearly, Gildor could NOT stop to babysit the hobbits. Did he know for a certainty that the Black Riders were indeed actually chasing Frodo? Or did he think it more likely they were hunting Gandalf? With all his cares, concerns, and even prejudices, did he really believe the Ringwraiths were concerned with some hobbits of the Shire? When this was finally recorded in the Red Book, might it not have been biased by a hobbit-centric viewpoint?

The Elf Lord did much to send such messages as he could, perhaps as much on Gandalf's behalf as anything!

Gildor Inglorion had a boat to catch! It was his appointed time to leave (evidently). He did what he could with what little he knew. Perhaps he and his messengers may have even drawn the Riders off the hobbits' trail, however briefly. Surely the wraith they frightened away was suspicious, and might have followed the elves for a brief time, suspecting his prey and the Ring were being already taken East. This might have given the hobbits the time they needed to vanish from the track.

As for Bombadil, if the hobbits had followed his advice, he wouldn't have needed to rescue them, much less ride with them to his border afterwards.

And as for Celeborn being "dim" or "thick," I submit that this is rank jealousy! After all, Galadriel must have seen SOMETHING in him! (Of course, she did choose to leave him behind...)

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04-17-2001, 12:18 PM	#8
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