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Old 12-04-2002, 08:43 AM   #30
Bill Ferny
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Though I wouldn’t go so far as to trivialize the Scottish or Irish wars of independence (why do we always forget the Welsh?), I have to agree with Squatter and Gwaihir on this matter. Seeing Scotland/Ireland (and you would have to include Wales to be fair) as they exist or existed politically, is a bit of allegory that was certainly not intended, and a stretch to see as unconscious on the part of Tolkien. There's nothing wrong with Irish Nationalism or its opposite per se, but don't force either down Tolkien's throat.

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No, I'm afraid that Arnor versus Angmar is a simple matter of good versus evil. Despite whatever impression Hollywood might have created, there has never been such a war in Britain.
Thank you! Now all we have to do is convince modern historians of this in regard to the Normans.
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