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Old 12-04-2002, 05:00 PM   #38
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
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Ok this is going way off topic and I'm sure Tolkien never intended this but dosen't the scouring of the Shire bear some resemblence to Ireland 1916-22
Merry Colllins?? Pippin de Valera?
Any popular uprising is going to match the Scouring of the Shire in some way or another. I see it more as an archetypal peasants' rebellion with an added anti-industrial twist myself.

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not once has any one said that angmar was based on the british islands
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Maybe tolkien wanted the wights to be like the dead Irish and Scottish soldiers who died fighting the English. Since Tolkien was English, he might take the side of the English and think that the Irish/Scottish were evil, so he made them into wights, who were evil and did come out of Angmar. Or maybe the wights were supposed to be like the English who died fighting the Irish/Scottish.
I think that it's time we stopped talking about Anglo-Irish history here. I'm sure that there are plenty of sites devoted to the discussion of what a wonderful place Ireland is and how horrible the English are, but this isn't one of them. Some of the comments are getting a little inflammatory for my liking.

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i just think that the land scape was vagely the same tiz all
Me too.

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: Squatter of Amon Rudh ]
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