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Old 02-23-2005, 10:18 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Aiwendil
It also doesn't feel quite right to say that Sauron was harnessing, especially through such mundane means, the Secret Fire - that which Melkor could never find, and which Gandalf names in opposition to the flame of Udun.
This is the hinge, I think.

As far as Eru and Arda-- in Tolkien and the great war scroll down and look for "In letter 192". There's a long discourse about a likely catholic interpretation of Tolkien's own statements regarding whether Eru was "in" Arda or not.
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