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Old 04-11-2003, 08:34 PM   #9
Tar Elenion
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Iarhen wrote:
Otherwise, Im still doubtful about the status of Vilya as "mightiest of the 3".
In RotK, The Grey Havens, JRRT wrote:
"Elrond wore a mantle of grey and had a star upon his forehead, and a silver harp was in his hand, and upon his finger was a ring of gold with a great blue stone, Vilya, mightiest of the Three."
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Gandalf says that without the rising of the dwarf kings on the northern mountains, Angmar or Smaug, or other forces from Sauron coming from the north would have wiped Rivendell out.
And we see a Lothlorien, protected by Nenya, fending off the 3 direct assaults from Dol Guldur. We see a Lorien protected not only from the Fortress of the Black Forest, but from the Moria goblins and from the direct view that the Eye of Sauron had over Lorien (an Eye that had a difficult time seeing Rivendell thanks to the Misty Mountains).

The mightiest realm? Lorien. And you cant use the population numbers (Lorien had the greatest, obviously) because there were a lot of the Noldorin high elves dwelling in Rivendell... elves whose names were worth for a 1000 swords...
In FotR, Many Meetings:
Frodo asks:
"What about Rivendell and the Elves? Is Rivendell safe?"
Gandalf replies:
"Yes, at present, until all else is conquered."

'All else' according to Gandalf.

[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: Tar Elenion ]
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