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Old 03-07-2005, 09:27 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by The Tennis Ball Kid
If you look closely, Gandalf actually has a different staff after he escapes.
Really? Just how many staffs, swords does Gandalf have in the movie?
  • He starts with one in the Shire, and I assume that he has Glamdring.
  • He loses both when he visits Saruman.
  • He gets another staff and sword for the journey to Moria. How he got a staff between Orthanc and Rivendell is beyond me.
  • He loses both when he fights the Balrog. I assume that when his body burns away after throwing down the Balrog that he cannot carry the sword/staff with him.
  • He gets a new white staff and a sword (PJ doesn't explain what happens to Gandalf when he upgrades from grey to white).
  • He loses his staff to the WK during the Pelennor Fields battle, but at least he retains his sword.
  • When he leaves ME with Frodo, he has yet another white staff, and I can't remember if he's still packing a sword.

Am I missing any staff appearances (i.e. the Coronation)?

The average viewer must think that Gandalf can get a staff/sword just about anywhere, and may conclude that they just aren't that special - except, maybe Anduril, Sting, and the son of Haleth's sword.

Merry's blade may just have been a random sharp piece of metal that he picked up after being thrown from Eowyn's horse. Again I would say then that PJ is being inconsistent as the WK is shown to be 'the bomb,' terrorizing and 'owning' the Balrog slayer yet being brought down by the hobbit's blade. Did Merry break the spell that knit the WK sinews together, or did he sting the WK, bringing him to his knees and causing him to 'freeze' so that (1) Eowyn could have time to say her line and (2) she could stab him in the face easily without the need of a step stool?

And while I'm ranting away, just how does Eowyn get 'almost dead?' After racking up an impressive body count, fighting Gothmog (2nd in command?), she kills the WK (and if that weren't enough), runs from the Gimp, and then...what are we to assume? She looks well enough when she chats with Theoden.

And remember, we're in PJ's world, and so information must be gleaned from what was on the screen.
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