Great post,
Heren. Can't say they make me like Arwen's character any more, however.
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I’m speaking from the male point of view, mind you, I do not know how it looks from the other side
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It looks pretty much the same.
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Not a modern approach, to be sure.
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My biggest quibble is this modern vs. old-fashioned dichotomy people keep using when discussing romance & genders; I do not believe it is entirely applicable here. It is ultimately misleading, because it limits debate in such a way that it cannot progress from the "oh, you're just saying that because you're a modern person" type of discussion. It presumes that female agency and interiority (or, for that matter, various expressions of sexuality and romance) is a post-modern artistic concept; it also presumes that, for example, had I lived 50 years ago, I would have had no qualms with the Arwen & Aragorn relationship.