Thread: Death portrayal
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:07 AM   #9
Ar-Pharazon
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A long response to a simple question

Hey here goes my first official post after the introduction post

The perception of death as a gift by Illuvatar to the mortal kinds is lost during the dark years of Melkor/Morgoth's reign in middle earth. Morgoth's creates a fear of death throught the slaying of the three kins and using death as tool to punish them. This twisted the perception of death for them. Men become fearful of death (ie Numenor invades Valinor to take immortality, because their king (my username) fears his impending death).

So I agree that PJ portrayed death as something unknown to all the beings of earth except for Illuvatar. Some fear death as Boromir(movie) did, he was dying in shame until Aragorn tells him that he has reclaimed his honour and fought valiantly and Boromir is calm about dying and his only regret was not seeing Aragorn crowned king. While Theoden feels that he goes into the unknown knowing that he has also reclaimed his honour by leading his people in the war against the shadow.

The shouting of death by the Rohirrim goes in line of the whole speech that Theoden gives to his men. Basically, he is saying that today is a day of battle and bloodspill, and the sun is rising behind us so to battle we go to deal death or be dealth death. "Ride now, ride now, ride for ruin, and the world's ending. Death, death,..."

Now here is the real mind twister for ne one. In the movie Gandalf talks about dying to Pippin when Pippin despairs about this being it. The quote that (Movie) Gandalf uses is the description that (Book) Frodo sees when he is passing into Valinor with the last of the elves. Gandalf is also from Valinor and is thought to be sent by the Valar as the greatest servant of Manwe. Therefore, did PJ make the mistake of using Gandalf to describe mortal death as the immortal's description of the passing into Valinor?

~Ar
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