[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Shelob

...and then part of me says that this is too close to yesterdays Phantom/Saucepanman dilema for comfort...

I agree. The innocent Villagers should be considering everyone, not just two people. There are three Werewolves after all. But if it does come down to a decision between Kuru and me, I would obviously urge you to vote for him, given how sure I am about him now.

Originally Posted by Shelob

Kuru's behaviour is too dangerous for a werewolf

Well, he's got away with it so far. But at this stage in the game, the Werewolves can afford to lose one of their number.

Originally Posted by Shelob

The problem I have found with this is that it is more likely a werewolf would have such well forumlated arguments than a smiple villager would simply because they would have had more time to formulate them ...

I argue for a living (er, when I'm not brewing, that is ...)

Originally Posted by Kuru

This is why. Her death would in no way point the finger at you. That is the perfect NIGHT strategy for the werewolves. Kill people at NIGHT who will not point to you. Those who would point to you leave alone for as long as possible.

True, as long as they are not prime lynching candidates. But once they are in the frame, they will want to keep the innocent Villagers who they think are unlikely to vote for them. It makes their chances of survival better. You are clever enough to realise, Kuru, that the Werewolves killing strategy will change as the game progresses. Rarely can they afford to leave it static.

Originally Posted by Kuru

If you are honest, then we have a fundamental philosophical difference in how to play the game. Innocent villagers attempting to defend themselves against people who attack them is attempting to uncover werewolves.

It can be, or it can simply consist of rebutting points without actually putting forward any evidence. Then again, you weren't so keen to make this point yesterday when you accused me of implicating the phantom simply by virtue of defending myself. In any event, it is not just the fact of someone defending themselves that makes them suspicious. The energy that they put into it and the prevailing attitude of the Village towards them at the time must also be taken into account. It is these factors which make your Day 2 behaviour very suspicious.

Originally Posted by Kuru

I urge everybody to go back and reread the posts in question. They are 48, 61, 62, 76, and 83 before Evisse's slaying. Then in 106, 124, and 134 he repeatedly and loudly blamed me as being primarily responsible for Evisse's death.

I would urge people to read all the posts, not just mine, take into account both arguments and form your own opinion.

Originally Posted by Kuru

You are either lying or misrepresenting what I've been saying. I've said a number of times that I might be wrong.

You hardly give the impression of someone who thinks that he is wrong. But that is because you are wrong intentionally.

Originally Posted by Kuru

I know something about werewolf strategy *cough* and single-mindedness is not good strategy. It is not good strategy for the werewolves to make moves that will likely at some point thin their own numbers.

As I said, there can be no single Werewolf strategy. It must adapt to circumstances. And in circumstances where the Werewolves have had virtually no votes cast against them (as is the case with you and mormegil, and probaly the third Werewolf too), the single-minded approach works well. By the time it becomes painfully apparent (as it is to me now), the Werewolves will be in a position where they can afford to lose one of their number (as they are now).

Here he is trying to begin his "poor pathetic Saucepan" routine in case I should get lynched.

So it's OK for you to admit that you might be wrong, but when I do it it's a ploy. Right.

It looks like Holbytlass is the third Werewolf.