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**lindil** · 06-14-2005, 11:24 AM

Well A. you did such an excellent job on an excellent topic I can only say,
Yeppers. [w/ a capital Y]

Nice to see you Underhillo, and thanls for the ref's.

JRRT indeed reached into the twiligt [a grey variant imo] to rescue European mythology from dusty academia and bring it into the Light. Not by translating but by a masterful creative/assimilaitive act unparralled in the history of the world. Only Gurdjieff's All and Everything attempts something on that scale imo. [ though Gurdjieff was building his cosmology from different more 'historical, if more obscure and esoteric elements than the Prof.] And I trust JRRT's theology more.

But I see parallels to the outrage post now next door.

If we see [if it can rightly be called that] only in terms of Black and White, we miss reality in which almost nothing in this world is so. Did not Christ say, 'God alone is good'. And yet we must continually traffic in much that is not God. OF course we have to try and do so wisely, and it is here that we either stay enmeshed in a dualistic fantasy world that demonizes anything 'other' just as ROhan and Gondor was well on the way to doing with the Elves, or we fall into a Lorien-like isolationism cut off even from our nearest kin just up the river and down the path.

Feanor was another example that could only see the Valar in black and white terms, and once one Vala had done him wrong he made them all guilty by the association of similar origin.

06-14-2005, 11:24 AM	#6
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Well A. you did such an excellent job on an excellent topic I can only say, Yeppers. [w/ a capital Y] Nice to see you Underhillo, and thanls for the ref's. JRRT indeed reached into the twiligt [a grey variant imo] to rescue European mythology from dusty academia and bring it into the Light. Not by translating but by a masterful creative/assimilaitive act unparralled in the history of the world. Only Gurdjieff's All and Everything attempts something on that scale imo. [ though Gurdjieff was building his cosmology from different more 'historical, if more obscure and esoteric elements than the Prof.] And I trust JRRT's theology more. But I see parallels to the outrage post now next door. If we see [if it can rightly be called that] only in terms of Black and White, we miss reality in which almost nothing in this world is so. Did not Christ say, 'God alone is good'. And yet we must continually traffic in much that is not God. OF course we have to try and do so wisely, and it is here that we either stay enmeshed in a dualistic fantasy world that demonizes anything 'other' just as ROhan and Gondor was well on the way to doing with the Elves, or we fall into a Lorien-like isolationism cut off even from our nearest kin just up the river and down the path. Feanor was another example that could only see the Valar in black and white terms, and once one Vala had done him wrong he made them all guilty by the association of similar origin. __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.