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Old 07-10-2005, 10:58 AM   #238
Feanor of the Peredhil
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The completion of our first NIGHT working together as a team.

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen
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Originally Posted by Kath
Erm, I suppose I'll go for Mormegil.
well you have just grown fur and a tail!!
You are a werewolf. AS are Orominuialwen and Fea

Since you have chosen befor they have made up their mind. I am telling them so they don't kill you!! 4 wolves will be so interesting!!!!
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Originally Posted by Fea
Ah, m'ladies, we had quite made up our mind (I was going to PM this morning, Mith, with Oro's blessing), but it looks like we cannot kill one of our own. Welcome to the team, dear Kath. We now need to find a new target. Do you have interest in reading our prior PMs, or would you prefer me to send you the gist of our dealings?

morm, Oro... she's foiled us!

Mith... our rocky start's been duly fixed.
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Originally Posted by morm
Of course our main objective now is to kill the seer. An intelligent seer will stay our of most people's way and not accuse anybody particularly at this stage. I think we can eliminate TGWBS from that list and probably Holytlass. The seer would not fly so low as to avoid being heard though. My guess would be somebody like Oddwen or Durelin. Both spoke but didn't really contribute much as far as speaking against people. Now Oddwen has played more so it may be nice to kill her off first due to her experience and it would be nice to leave Durelin in another round to give him some experience.

Oh and Feanor I'm a man not a "m'lady"
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Originally Posted by morm
Reading the notice board I wonder if we would be well served to kill Sophie off before anything like that happens.

Incidentally do we know what Gil was? I'm assuming merely an innocent and not gifted. So my vote goes for either
Oddwen
Durelin
Sophie

Probably in that order...let me know what you think.
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Originally Posted by Kath
I'm sorry I've taken so long to reply. To the best of my knowledge Gil wasn't gifted, just an innocent - who I was not in league with btw.

I've had to rush through reading the thread so if you could just give me a quick reason why you want to vote for these people Morm?

And Fea an overview would be great, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Morm
Well Kath to be honest why I want to kill those is because we are now rushed. You were slated to die tonight and we were going to attempt to pull off the double-bluff. We could still try it on TGWBS if you'd like but I think either Oddwen or Durelin are acting most like the seer.

Now there is a problem Kath...People (TGWBS mainly) have suspicion that we might be in league together...laughable at the time yes...but now it's true. You and I need to distance that but not make it too obvious. I think I will say something to the effect of "now that Gil's dead and innocent I'm convinced that he and Kath were not in league together. Kath is probably innocent but still I'm not sure". I think something like that will be sufficient. You may need to keep a bit of heat on me this round...not so much I get lynched...but you probably shouldn't forget me.

So what say you ladies? Do we go for the double-bluff approach and Kill TGWBS or one of the others I've listed...or perhaps you have a better suggestion. I am very willing to listen and be swayed.

Incidentally Kath, you having been innocent what did you think of us three? Do we appear in cahoots? wolfish? innocent? What was your take on it?
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Originally Posted by Fea
Gil wasn't gifted. It would have said so if he was. The reason that we organized the slaying of Gil is because he was openly suspicious of Morm and me. Partly we wanted him gone, partly we wanted to be able to call frame-up. The reason you were set to die tonight is the same reason: killing you would make Morm look guilty as all heck, which is the perfect double bluff. With his top two accusers gone, Morm would be in the clear because nobody would believe a wolf would intentionally draw that much attention to himself.

Kath: here are our roles as of yet: Morm and I are our typical loudmouth selves, calling attention to ourselves, and keepng our distance from each other. Oro is the quiet one. She suspects me, I suspect her. You may choose whatever role you want, as nobody thinks you're guilty and nobody knows we've got a new wolf.

We considered ways of choosing victims: entirely random, with the perk of being untracable; alphebetical, tracable but fruitlessly so; frame someone else; frame ourselves. So far, we've gone with framing ourselves.

We talked for awhile on what to do with Gil, finally deciding that killing him would cast all kinds of needless (and therefore excellent) suspicion on anyone who voted for him, but most especially on Morm. If you died during the day, we'd take him at night, and vice versa. That plan's shot, so we're on to a new one (still to be decided on).

Morm wants to kill TGWBS (because of his experience, expertise, and previous accusations), but I nixed the idea. I want to keep TGWBS alive for a later frame up. Plus the good boy thinks I'm innocent. That's obviously a plus in our favor, because he's a convincing foe.

That's about it so far. If you're wondering how we fit all that in in the past 12 hours, it's because we had all DAY yesterday granted to us by Mith, because Lhuna (the original wolf) dropped and I was recruited just a few hours before we started. Our daylight PMs are done now, but we've still got night.

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I'm a man, not a m'lady.
Catering to the masses, ol' boy. The PM was to you, Oro, Mith, AND Kath. Three out of four ain't bad, eh?

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Oddwen, Durelin, Soph
If we kill Sophia, people will know that it was to stop Gil from returning. They'll take a closer look at everything he said. Which, quite honestly, is perfect.

If we kill Durelin, we are making TGWBS look bad (she only accused him and Gil).

If we kill Oddwen, we've got nothin' since she didn't really openly accuse anyone, nor did she vote.

In response to the Kill-the-Seer, yes. That's important. Very important. Looking through our list, I'd say that each of your choices are ideal, Mormy, but Firefoot is better.

I know we wanted her for tomorrow, but she looks so promising, as she fingered Morm and Oro (voted against Oro), but it's not a guaranteed thing, since she was active and also pointed out others. She's dangerous, but she could also work well if we wanted to frame Holby later. Remember, Holby's laying low, which can be easily used against her. Think about it... Firefoot claimed you as suspect, Morm. So did Gil. There's the bluff we were after with Kath. Also, Firefoot's a danger because she's experienced. Also, she pointed out Holby who voted for Gil. It wouldn't take a lot of effort to convey "suspicions" toward her. Really, about as much as it took to get Gil killed today.

What do you think? Oh yeah, sorry about my inordinately long PM.
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Originally Posted by Kath
Sorry I seem to have screwed up all your plans with one simple choice!

I see your point about creating a distance Morom and if you want me to put heat on you I could blame you for Gil's death for a while and then somehow slowly become less convinced of this being a wolf plot?

I'm agreeing with this double-bluff approach but maybe not TGWBS - I just feel that might draw too much suspicion. Also, he is pretty vocal and might be useful later if we can push him into being suspicious of others. I'm more inclined to go with Fea and kill Holby.

As for who the Seer is I'm no further in my guesses than you Morm so I'll trust your instinct on that unless I see something that makes me think otherwise. Though as a question, when were you planning on killing the Seer, or at least trying to?

To answer Morm's question as an innocent I was absolutely convinced that you (Morm) were a werewolf - that was partly why I chose you as I thought you were coming after me next and I wanted to actually be in this game! Fea I also thought you were a wolf though for that i have no reasoning other than gut instinct. Oro I had no idea about at all. None of you seemed to be working together though so you did well there.
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Originally Posted by Fea
I have to go, and I won't be back until later, so here's my choice: Firefoot.

She's a danger as is, she's a potential seer, and her death could help us a LOT later on.

If you decide against her, do what you will with my blessing, but for the love of Ford, don't kill TGWBS. I want the village to take care of that mess for us.
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Originally Posted by Morm
I would rather go with Oddwen than Firefoot but I'm okay if we want to go with Firefoot. I don't think there is the same double-bluff potential (though that may arise later) Kath it's up to you since we can't talk to Oro right now. I'm fine either way.
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Originally Posted by mormegil

Originally Posted by Kath Jeez giving me the decision!?! Well all I can say is it's your own fault. But I think I'm going to agree with you Morm and say Oddwen.Sorry Fea but it's oddwen this round.

Mith we would like to kill our friend Oddwen and hope that she is the seer.
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Originally Posted by morm
I will post, as usual, my list of who voted for who. It will show that TGWBS and Kitanna made critical votes of our known innocent. We shouldn't push too heavily on that but I will point it out and maybe it could be followed up by somebody else in the village. We could cast further suspicion on those two by what they have said. But they were 3rd and 4th to vote for Ole Gil. They did this at a critical time.

Kath any suggestions on how I can act a bit differently today that would have helped allay your suspcions of me...obviously nothing too obvious.
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Originally Posted by Oro
I would suggest killing off Sophia to avoid having Gil return, complete with all his suspicions. If you don't want to do that, possibly Firefoot, although that may point suspicion towards me and morm. I'll be away until NIGHT is over, so whatever you decide is fine by me.

Oh, by the way, nice job there Fea, calling me subtle. It amused me very much.
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Originally Posted by Kath
Lots of PMs are good, only way I can keep up with all this.

So are we trying to get TGWBS lynched tomorrow? In a subtle way of course.

Well Morm obv I will have to be suspicious of you due to your attack of Gil but maybe you could make a point about being the first to vote and then having to run off.
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