[Feanor of the Peredhil]

This night begins in such a great fashion, with us celectrating taking out the Seer.

Originally Posted by Fea

My doves, look how fantastic that was. We've killed off our Seer. I am now the hero that kept myself and Firefoot from taking out extra innocents (certainly nothing a wolf would do), and so now, for some strange reason, not a soul suspects me. I'd like to keep it that way. I'm sure you see my reasoning for what I did?
I knew it had to be Kitanna the second she mentioned a mytho-wolf relationship between Morm and Kath. Everybody take a nice drink now to celebrate your fantastic work.

Mormegil, m'dear, I'm sure that you can see your own fate is sealed. Kitanna made absolute certain that she voted against you. You were the only one she accused toDAY. Kath, you are not much safer, as she pegged you as Mytho. However, the village can only kill one person per day, and I believe that person will be Mormegil tomorrow. Which is why I've made a point to say how much of a wolf I think you are, early and often.

Is it agreed that we should sacrifice you tomorrow? Not all together, of course... I would say that Oro should vote for someone else. TGWBS, perhaps.

I'm almost positive that Holby is our Hunter (which, of course, is why I changed my vote.) She needs to stay alive, because if the villagers kill Morm tomorrow, and she pegs Kath, we're down to two. If she stays annoyingly alive, she has no power.

I don't think Gil or Nilp pose any problem at all. Their posts are sporatic and not particularly swaying. I don't believe either to be the Ranger.

That leaves us Firefoot and Durelin to kill tonight. Killing Footie would point to us protecting Oro, since she pegged her two days in a row. Plus she's so charmingly convinced that I'm innocent. I say that Durelin is our choice for tonight. That leaves the schedule like this:

NIGHT: Durelin

DAY: Mormegil

Score: 5 Villagers: 3 Werewolves

All they have to do is screw up once, and we win. We need to keep Holby alive though, or she can even the odds disturbingly. If we pick off TGWBS the next day (shouldn't be hard, given his endearlingly bad habit of defending the guilty and voting against innocents, plus brains and latent suspicion already against him), we win the next night.

How's that sound to you guys?

Originally Posted by mormegil

Sweet! We got the seer. I'm glad most of you distanced yourself from me. I find it odd though that Kitanna didn't outright proclaim herself when she was sure to be lynched. She never said that she was sure of me. It's unlikely that I'll survive tomorrow but there's a slim chance.

Originally Posted by morm

I think I may be able to wiggle out of this one. It's a very great uphill battle but I think I can possible swing it. I was looking over Kitanna's posts and she never said she's sure of me. Just had a bad feeling and that something doesn't sit right. If I were the seer and knew I would be lynched I would cry out so vocally that there would be no doubt that the wolf was guilty.

My defense will be to point out the holes and attempt to cast suspicion elsewhere. I will basically say what I said here but do it in more detail. I hope that either TGWBS or Firefoot come to my aid.

If it looks as if a sweeping majority will be coming against me than all should vote for me as to not stick out. But if there is doubt still in people's mind than one or two vote for me the other one or two attack the other person who is being blamed.

If I have time tonight I will prepare my defense and see if you can look it over.

Originally Posted by Fea

Morm, I'm not so sure. Even though she never explicitly stated you, she was rather finger-pointy on day one with three suspects, and day two she directly pointed you out, even going so far as to vote for you instead of someone else. Had she voted for Holby, for example, she could have possibly secured the death of a popular suspect. She didn't, which points to you.

If you think you can wriggle out, by all means, do it. However I labelled you today as the suspect I would have voted for, if I hadn't thought it crucial to avoid a tie, so I won't be backing down tomorrow. In order to keep up appearances, I do think I'll have to vote for you, Morm, even if I later revoke it.

I disagree. If we all vote together, the odds are higher that they'll catch us. After all, it's seemingly obvious that you're going to die, so why would a wolf go out of his/her way to vote against, and draw attention to his/herself? See what I mean? I'd rather see Kath vote for me, as she was pegged as a wolf/mytho, and I could call her on it, saying that she was trying to take an innocent down with her, since she knows she's going to die. The basic "Guys, you're going to listen to the last request of a WOLF!?" defense.

Originally Posted by Kath

Morm an explanation of how you're gonna get out of being lynched would be great as it will help us (or at least me) with how to act.

As for who should die tonight I would want to go with Durelin except that might put suspicion on me. Still, she was the only person to vote for me and I've a reasonable argument against her reasons for suspecting me so I'm happy to kill her.

Also, apologies for being around so little today. I would have been able to get online at school but due to illness I never went in.

Originally Posted by morm

No I would be highly suspect of somebody if everyone voted one way (me a wolf) except one person. I am saying if everybody voted me then you should too.

But I agree I am most likely dead and that you should attack me Feanor. Don't be too obvious of course. But I'm hoping (a fool's hope) that I may be able to wiggle my way out. I've at least got to try.

I would be reluctant to kill Firefoot. She seems to be on most of our sides. I can see a good defense in killing Durelin. Durelin voted Kath. Kitanna pointed out the Kath/Morm relationship and the possiblity of Kath being the Mythomaniac. Now,for Kath at least, it's a perfect set up by the wolves. That could be your defense especially after I die.

Any suggestions you can see that would help me would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by oro

Oh boy. I go away for a couple of hours and look what happens. Here I was all ready to tell you to vote for me after suspicion had been rather pinned on me earlier, to distance yourselves from me, but that doesn't seem necessary now.

I agree that we shouldn't kill Firefoot tonight. She's been on the side of most of you, other than me, so it wouldn't help you to have less support, and it would lok very guilty.

Killing Durelin seems like a good idea too. It would make it seem like Kath had been set up, and might also help to end suspicions that I'm working with her.

Out of all of this so far, Fea, you seem to be really the only one who's escaped any real suspicion. I guess nobody's willing to believe that Mith would choose such a prominent person as a wolf...

Originally Posted by Fea

Worry not, dear martyr. I'm good at being obvious about entirely the wrong things. You're safe from my mistakes. And it's not like they'll believe me even if I say "I know he's a wolf because I'm one also." I mean, I already told them that I'm a wolf like three times. Of course I only told them that because they wouldn't believe it... "If [s]he was tellin' the truth, [s]he wouldn't have told it!"

Good. Glad to see we're agreed.

So are we set on killing off Durelin tonight?

Um... Sorry buddy. I'm lost on that one. I honestly think you're sunk. You might want to play the frame up idea, but if Kath's to use it later, it might not be a good idea. Ooh, I've got something, maybe. Try getting people to come up with definitive evidence against you. If you make them work for the kill, they might give up just to save effort.

Originally Posted by oro

I agree. Go ahead once you hear from everybody else.

Originally Posted by morm

We're still forgetting who the guardian may be. I think it may be Durelin. But as Fea guessed Holbytlass may be the Hunter. Going on the assumption we could try and look back and she if there's anybody that she seems in league with.

Getting the guardian out of the way would be very helpful for the next night. Being as Firefoot voted her I'm inclined to think it's not her. Any other guesses?

Originally Posted by Kath

I'm happy with killing Durelin tonight.

Morm I don't really have any suspicions towards who the Guardian is. If it is Durelin then we get her out of the way tonight by voting for her, if it's someone else we have tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Fea

Okay. Durelin it is. Like Kath said, we've got a good shot of her being Guardian, and if not, there's always tomorrow. I'm PMing Mith. Talk to you guys tomorrow.

Originally Posted by mormegil

Here is a rough draft of my defense. Look it over please and see if it's coherent and if you would buy into it if you were innocent. Let me know before DAY starts please. Thank you and if I do die it's been a pleasure killing, plotting, and herding with you all. Fea's box is full

In post 87 Kitanna admits openly that her suspicions of me are mere speculation. She states that it’s nothing concrete she obviously didn’t dream about me. Post 95 Kitanna admits she is a moron. Apparently she lacks confidence in herself and her ideas. In the same thread she admitted that she had Gil-Galad pegged down as guilty which we know isn’t true. Point is the seer is not infallible In post 118 she knew she was probably going to die and how did she word her decision to vote for me? "I’m going to stick my foot further in my mouth". That to me doesn’t sound like somebody who is sure of herself. The only reason she gave to vote for me is because I gave Gil the benefit of the doubt and my suspicions of Kath have been put on the back burner due to others who I find more suspicious now. My defense for why I voted Kath and not Gil I have previously explained in post 121. Many have changed their minds on who to vote for. I wrote off Gil’s behavior to an overzealous innocent with a general lack of experience. I was correct many others weren’t. If deducing innocence and guilt is a cause for suspicion we may as well roll over and die and let the wolves take over. As far as my vote for Kath and lowering my suspicions of her I have explained that briefly but will do so in a bit more detail. When yesterday started I kept my eye on her and waited to see what she would do. Then I found some rather large areas of suspicion in Durelin and others. Shortly after some suspicious behavior was pointed out by Fea regarding Holbytlass. Now as TGWBS and I discussed consensus was important at this stage. Holbytlass had garnered some votes so I felt more confident in voting for her than Durelin, hoping that other might change their votes. I was still under the impression, until TGWBS pointed it out otherwise, that we needed a overall majority of 6 to ensure the lynching. Again I found Holbytlass and Durelin more suspicious than Kitanna and I was correct again in presuming innocence. Would that others had followed my lead and not lynched Kitanna. Holbytlass whether innocent or guilty is not as important to us as our precious seer is. Firefoot and Fea were rather Fickle in the matter and should be examined closely. It is puzzling to me that after TGWBS put out a plan to protect the seer Kitanna didn’t openly proclaim herself. Would we have believed her? I’m not sure, but if I were the seer and knew that I was heading for the gallows I would say with no room for doubt that I dreamt of so and so and he/she is guilty or innocent. She did neither. But merely suggested that she didn’t have a good feeling about me. If that alone isn’t enough evidence not to lynch me automatically then please read carefully I’m not saying don’t kill me today but don’t make it a rash decision based on inconclusive evidence from our seer. Look back at my actions and decide for yourself if they are suspicious or if I have been a contributing member to out village. I do not make it a habit to defend myself with great zeal but I found it necessary to prepare this during NIGHT so that I could have it ready at the start of the day, knowing that the wolves won’t want such an easy target out of the way for today’s lynchings.

Originally Posted by oro

I thought that was great,
morm. You probably would've had me convinced, although I'm not sure if it'll work on some of our more seasoned players. Best of luck to ye, and if you don't survive through tomorrow it's been great to play with you. It's nice to have more experienced players to help me along!