[Folwren]

Originally posted by TGWBS:
It is a well known fact that, if a man (or hobbit) has children, they are seen as approachable and more likely to be voted for. Now, here's the shocker - Sam planned his children around the political calender to make people more likely to vote for him!

What polotics were you ever in to know something like that? Sneak.

But, have to say, on account of the lack of birth control that they had, it's impossible for Sam to have planned his children around the politicial calender.

Ludricous? Let us consider the timeline and Master Gamgee's family tree.

1427 - Merry, Sam's son, is born. Conveniently, Sam is elected for the first time soon after on the same year.

1433 - Sam's daughter Primrose born late in the year. Sam re-elected early 1434.

1440 - Sam's daughter Robin born in the ending months. Sam re-elected in the following months next year.

1448 - It is not known, but highly suspected amongst scholars, that Sam forced his daughter Elanor to have a baby in this year, giving him the status of Grandfather. He is re-elected.

1454 - Elanor again forced to have a child, Elfstan. Sam elected following year.

1462 - Sam's son, Frodo, forced to have a child (Holfast) this year. Sam re-elected same year.

1469 - Some other child of Sam's is presumably forced to reproduce this year, resulting in his re-election.


As you can see, each election campaign conveniently had some spawn of Sam's for him to fawn over in front of crowds, pulling in the voters. Carefully choreographed, we can only assume that his offspring rebelled against him during his later years, forcing him across the Sea.

You moron! You don't 'carefully choreograph' seven births! That is absolutely rediculous! Besides that, I don't even know where you got those birth dates...they're not in MY appendixes...unless I've really missed something.

TGWBS, I have to say that your debating skills are lacking. Either find new evidence against Sam or just give up! These arguments just aren't cutting it.