When the Witchking still ruled Angmar, They had to get aid from Lorien during the 2nd attack. I know the difference between Rivendell and Lorien! 
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Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill.
That old whine ain't got no soul.
I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.*~*
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