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**The Saucepan Man** · 08-14-2005, 04:47 AM

Apologies to one and all for my extended absence this day. Alcarillo's beer must be stronger than I thought.

Well, much has happened since I spoke last, and I have been musing over all that has been said and done.

The most significant development is that, following initial suspicion against Gurthang and lmp, a significant backlash has developed against Mithalwen.

I must admit that, as I mused upon what has been said, I too felt Mithalwen to be suspicious, even before I saw the bandwaggon against her begin to develop. The fact that it has makes me question my initial conclusion. However, my reasons for suspecting her remain firm. She defended her need to vote early rather too forcefully in my view (in post #26). She also reacted very defensively against mormegil's random accusation (a tactic to elicit reaction, in my view) - compare her reaction (post #30) to that of Firefoot (post #32). And arcticstorm didn't even bother to respond to it. And her vote for Gurthang might be taken as an effort to nurture and develop the (then) bandwaggon against him, which was based on nothing but the fact that he posted first and 'in character'.

So, while I am loathe to join a bandwaggon, I am still minded to vote for Mithalwen. Even if she is innocent, her death may prove to us to be helpful for I believe that mormegil (in post #62) talks sense and that at least one Wolf will (if she is innocent) have voted for her at a decisive stage in the bandwaggoning. His list of those who would be most suspicious in those circumstances makes sense to me too, ie:

Samwisegamgee
Meneltarmacil
Boromir
Alcarillo

Although I would (reluctantly) have to include Firefoot on the list as she was the second to vote for Mithalwen (and quite early too). At least one other Wolf will (if Mithalwen is innocent) probably be amongst those who have voted quite deliberately to avoid the bandwaggon, so as to distance themselves from it.

If Mithalwen is guilty, then we should look carefully at Gil-Galad, who seems to have tried to swing the voting away from Mithalwen and back towards Gurthang, with little more reason than there was to vote for him at the beginning of the Day (post #57).

I also think that we should bear in mind those who have contributed, but said little to aid the Village in our cause (and who might thereby be hoping to 'fly under the radar'). In my view, this list comprises:

CaptainofDespair
Encaitare
Gil-Galad
Laitaine
Lalaith
Meneltarmacil
Nonnacedak
wilwarin538

Of those who have spoken more frequently, I am least suspicious of mormegil, Firefoot (hence my reluctance above) and dancing spawn, largely because their thoughts seem to be along the same lines as mine. That, of course, doesn't make them innocent. But I am less inclined to view them suspiciously at this stage.

The time approaches to vote, and I am probably going to cast mine for Mithalwen for the reasons stated above. But I am conscious of the fact that every vote now for her brings her closer to the point where her death will be certain. I have time, and so will hold off for the time being in case anything further of significance is said.

08-14-2005, 04:47 AM	#68
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Apologies to one and all for my extended absence this day. Alcarillo's beer must be stronger than I thought. Well, much has happened since I spoke last, and I have been musing over all that has been said and done. The most significant development is that, following initial suspicion against Gurthang and lmp, a significant backlash has developed against Mithalwen. I must admit that, as I mused upon what has been said, I too felt Mithalwen to be suspicious, even before I saw the bandwaggon against her begin to develop. The fact that it has makes me question my initial conclusion. However, my reasons for suspecting her remain firm. She defended her need to vote early rather too forcefully in my view (in post #26). She also reacted very defensively against mormegil's random accusation (a tactic to elicit reaction, in my view) - compare her reaction (post #30) to that of Firefoot (post #32). And arcticstorm didn't even bother to respond to it. And her vote for Gurthang might be taken as an effort to nurture and develop the (then) bandwaggon against him, which was based on nothing but the fact that he posted first and 'in character'. So, while I am loathe to join a bandwaggon, I am still minded to vote for Mithalwen. Even if she is innocent, her death may prove to us to be helpful for I believe that mormegil (in post #62) talks sense and that at least one Wolf will (if she is innocent) have voted for her at a decisive stage in the bandwaggoning. His list of those who would be most suspicious in those circumstances makes sense to me too, ie: Samwisegamgee Meneltarmacil Boromir Alcarillo Although I would (reluctantly) have to include Firefoot on the list as she was the second to vote for Mithalwen (and quite early too). At least one other Wolf will (if Mithalwen is innocent) probably be amongst those who have voted quite deliberately to avoid the bandwaggon, so as to distance themselves from it. If Mithalwen is guilty, then we should look carefully at Gil-Galad, who seems to have tried to swing the voting away from Mithalwen and back towards Gurthang, with little more reason than there was to vote for him at the beginning of the Day (post #57). I also think that we should bear in mind those who have contributed, but said little to aid the Village in our cause (and who might thereby be hoping to 'fly under the radar'). In my view, this list comprises: CaptainofDespair Encaitare Gil-Galad Laitaine Lalaith Meneltarmacil Nonnacedak wilwarin538 Of those who have spoken more frequently, I am least suspicious of mormegil, Firefoot (hence my reluctance above) and dancing spawn, largely because their thoughts seem to be along the same lines as mine. That, of course, doesn't make them innocent. But I am less inclined to view them suspiciously at this stage. The time approaches to vote, and I am probably going to cast mine for Mithalwen for the reasons stated above. But I am conscious of the fact that every vote now for her brings her closer to the point where her death will be certain. I have time, and so will hold off for the time being in case anything further of significance is said. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!