Joy: Welcome to the club.
I hope this thread services all your Quenyan needs... Oh, and it would please me better if you didn't remember me. I seem to recall being a bit of a prat back then, really...
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Originally Posted by spawn
Ladies and gentlemen, I have just written my very first poem in Quenya!
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Congratulations!
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The bad news is that it's probably full of mistakes and I have to learn a few more lessons before I can really finish it. I wrote it first in English but I noticed pretty quickly that I have to make it much more simple so it corresponds with my Q. skills even a little better. It was hard to write without past tense, prepositions (except "nu") personal pronouns and whatnot. But I'm getting there!
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Not to worry, you can always go back afterwards and fiddle with it. If you really need to use something like a pronoun, you can get a basic understanding from the English-Quenya wordlist.
Yes, the language is beautiful, and I must roll off my chair and writhe on the floor in laughter for a few seconds at that Finnish sentence. Maybe he intended it to be like that... And yeah, explains the whole cup thing.
I just had a thought: What type of poetry do you think Quenya is suited to? Before I started, I imagined I'd be writing about summer and trees and blossoming flowers, and Quenya would probably work very well with that. At the moment, though, I'm writing an "epic" poem on the Fall of the Noldor - and the Quenya really seems to fit the epic mood of the poem.
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Originally Posted by spawn
Enca, I couldn't even dream about saying "much longer" in Quenya yet.
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Me neither!
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Originally Posted by Enca
New Words -- If you can't find an attested form of the word you're looking for, the next best thing to go with is a "reconstructed" form.
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Careful, Enca. Both the Barrow Wight and I would like to stick to "pure" Tolkien Quenya, though of course a little extrapolation is required. Nilp also declared an interest in creating new words from stems. This is different.
Obviously, we don't want Grelvish on BD, but I'm also wary of creating new words from know "Qenya" or Primitive Elvish roots. The site you gave a link to states
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This list cannot be taken as a wordlist of Quenya words devised by J.R.R. Tolkien himself, and people therefore should not take and freely use them as if they were 'real'. It is very possible that they are non-sense or completely wrong, but until we have Tolkien's own words, we must, if we want to use Quenya, help ourselves and such words may be used as our temporary solution.
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That said, a lot of the words seem to be derived logically enough for use by mixing two or more old words / suffixs etc. together. I'd support using these. I'm against creating new words from Primitive Elvish stems - we can't have any idea whether Tolkien would still use them in the same way, or if he'd make them irregular, or if he wouldn't want them used at all. I'd advise against using these.