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Old 08-17-2005, 10:41 AM   #216
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I do not deny my influence in Captain's death. I sadly had a part to play in it, I will admit, putting some strong accusations towards him. However, my vote for him was not in an attempt to start a bandwagon (there were other purposes which I wish not to reveal). If you want to know you'll have to see how I responded to Captain's quick vote and figure it out for youselves.

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Boromir is also looking furry to me, because of his safe voting, his tendency to divert attention away from certain things towards where he wants it (post 113 for example).
You're quite right, I do divert, but got it backwards. I don't do it for myself, lmp.

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Gurthang, earlier you reminded me that Boromir and Encaitare were only doing what I had already done, accusing someone for being in character. The difference is that I was the first, and they bandwaggoned on my idea. If it had been the other way around, I'd be the suspicious one.
Another thing mistaken lmp. In post #2 Alcarillo voiced some concern for Gurthang. My post after #3 voiced stronger concerns. And continued until Gurthang defended his stance in which case I turned my decision towards Mithalwen (which was a much wiser choice).

I say we try something new. Our plans failed yesterday when it came to Captain, it's time to try something new. As we voice our thoughts on what the "bear" or the "wolves" would do, that gives them ideas on what to do. So to say things like "a bear would obviously not do this, it would be to suspicious"...or the "wolf would not do this...etc" they pick up on these things and do that exact thing knowing it would look TOO suspicious to us therefor they can't be the bear/wolf. It's something that I would like to call as using reverse psychology, we say to do this would be way too suspicious therefor that person can't be the wolf/bear, so they go ahead and do it that way, knowing we won't cast suspicion on them.

For instance, we said Laitane voted for Alcarillo, then next day Alcarillo is killed by the bear. This would be far too suspicious for a bear to kill the person he/she voted for on Day 1, so Laitane can't be the bear. On the contrary she (right?) could be.

Also, on for the wolves I'm doing my first suspect list for the wolves in which case Gil-Galad and lmp are most suspicious to me. Gil-galad for reasons continuing from the last day, and despite me thinking his defense sounds exactly like Gil-galad, being Gil-galad, that's what he wants us to think. So, reversing it, he puts this lackluster defense up knowing we'll think oh, it just sounds like something Gil-galad would say, so they it can't be him.

lmp, for the reasons of Mithalwen's quick identifying him as the seer. To me there is no reason to believe lmp is the seer. Mithalwen did not plan on getting caught so early, so this could have been some wolfish strategy designed at the beginning, to cast off suspicion. Again we have Mithalwen, Gil-Galad, and lmp on day one all voting for Gurthang. 3 wolves sticking together? This would all be too suspicious, so it can't be, it would be too bold. But, "reversing it," the wolves know we'll think this, therefor all 3 wolves stick together and vote the same.

For wolves: Most suspicious-
1. Gil-galad
2. lmp

For bears, most suspicious-
1. Laitane.

Everyone else is also suspicious so here's my breakdown of (more, less, or almost none suspicious)

More Suspicious:
1. Durelin
2. Lalaith
3. Nonnacedak

Less Suspicious:
1. Meneltarmacil
2. Gurthang
3. wilwarin
4. Samwise

Almost no suspicion, to the point where they just seem fully innocent:
1. Saucepan Man
2. Dancing Spawn
3. Arcticstorm

Edit: More to come on why I think this way with the lists I made further on once I look harder through the posts.
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