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**lindil** · 08-15-2002, 10:39 AM

Stone of Erech having a certain power is a def. possibility, whileelse bring the darn thing from Numenor?!?!?!

Dunedain def had 'magic' although in some letter or another JRRT regrets it abit. Nonertheless, the swords of M&P of the 'North Kingdom' were forged using seemingly an Dunedain version of Elvish and/or Dwarvish metalurgical magic.

Aragorn seems capable of Osanwe, The use of the Palantir to confront and defy saron was not hjust being a good guy but having acertain power and also in theis case authority.

W/ Isildur, as the men of the W. mntns had made an oath to Isildur [ or Gondor] and he was lawful ruler of the land he most likely methinks was prophetically given a certain insight that the curse would be the result.
So he imo revealed it more than engineered it.

so I guess I have just defeated my argument and given ultimate power in this situation to Iluvatar. not w/out it's problems but feels more true than elaborate Dunedain magic arguments.

That Eru would be willing to do a couple of specific things to eliminate the threat of sauron is not w/out reason.

I recall Eru being invioved w/ gandalfs return in some way [UT?]so why not forseeing that Aragorn would need that army and that route? It is a 'legendarium' after all!

[ August 15, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]

08-15-2002, 10:39 AM	#16
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Stone of Erech having a certain power is a def. possibility, whileelse bring the darn thing from Numenor?!?!?! Dunedain def had 'magic' although in some letter or another JRRT regrets it abit. Nonertheless, the swords of M&P of the 'North Kingdom' were forged using seemingly an Dunedain version of Elvish and/or Dwarvish metalurgical magic. Aragorn seems capable of Osanwe, The use of the Palantir to confront and defy saron was not hjust being a good guy but having acertain power and also in theis case authority. W/ Isildur, as the men of the W. mntns had made an oath to Isildur [ or Gondor] and he was lawful ruler of the land he most likely methinks was prophetically given a certain insight that the curse would be the result. So he imo revealed it more than engineered it. so I guess I have just defeated my argument and given ultimate power in this situation to Iluvatar. not w/out it's problems but feels more true than elaborate Dunedain magic arguments. That Eru would be willing to do a couple of specific things to eliminate the threat of sauron is not w/out reason. I recall Eru being invioved w/ gandalfs return in some way [UT?]so why not forseeing that Aragorn would need that army and that route? It is a 'legendarium' after all! [ August 15, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.