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Old 08-31-2005, 10:00 PM   #27
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Good thoughts Tar-Ancalime, later I may have more to think of, but just a quick thing to say...
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Frodo, on the other hand, is not at all eager to leave the Shire and in fact delays to his peril. He's like Boromir--a reluctant traveler who would rather have stayed home.
I think the difference though between Frodo and Boromir, is that Frodo is willing to give up the Shire. Though he is reluctant, he makes the ultimate sacrifice of carrying the burden and throwing aside his desire to go back home. He was able to put past his own selfish wants and figuratively carry the fate of Middle-earth.

In Boromir's case he seems to make it pretty clear he has full intentions are to go back to Minas Tirith. Even with his death his body happens to make it back to Minas Tirith. He doesn't put aside his wants like Frodo is able to.

In many ways I would consider Boromir more closely tied to Gollum in this matter. Though Boromir has travelled around (he's been to Rohan a few times, and as we see him in Rivendell) there are things to show that he's not the true "wanderer" like say Gandalf.

As you've mentioned he has little knowledge of things outside Gondor and pays little respect to things he doesn't understand. I think his travel to Rivendell can show that Boromir isn't a true wanderer either, he gets lost. "Not all wanderers are lost, but are some of them?"

As was being discussed with Gollum, he wandered around a bit, and roamed from place to place, was very familiar with the geography, but that doesn't necessarily make him a true wanderer. He wandered for his own greed and selfishness, to ge the ring back, so he could go back and hide.

I think Boromir wanders for the same reason. He goes to Rivendell to get an answer to a riddle he had in a dream. Could this be selfish? I think to Boromir it can be (and I believe this is the first time I've spoken bad about the guy so if I start crying just ignore me)...He goes there to get answers on Isildur's Bane and the sword-that-was-broken, and while he does go there for answers he rejects the answers that are given. He doesn't agree with what the Council has to say on the ring, and he gives this somewhat of a doubtful response to Aragorn...
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"Yet we are hard pressed, and the sword of Elendil would be a help beyond our hope - if such a thing could indeed retur out of the shadows of the past." He looked again at Aragorn, and doubt was in his eyes."~Council of Elrond
There's another quote in there where Boromir says that if Aragorn merely hadn't inherited an heirloom or if he could wield it like the kings of old, but can't find it right now and it's getting late. So, does this make Boromir a wanderer because he went to Rivendell searching for answers. I wouldn't say so, because the answers he was given, he rejected, and found fault in them, didn't agree with them.

I think we can split the "wanderers" category. There are those who are true wanderers. That don't wander for their selfish-greed, or self-gain, but do it to help and aid those in need. Best example Gandalf, or an Aragorn.

Then there are those "wanderers who ARE lost." They wander yet they do it for their own gain, not to the benefit of others....Gollum and it pains me to admit...Boromir.
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