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Old 09-22-2000, 10:46 AM   #9
Saulotus
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Did the Valar abandon Middle Earth - Third Age?

&gt;&gt;I forgot about the Blue Wizards and thought they arrived in the Third Age. Glorfindel's time of arrival is kind of unsettled too.&lt;&lt;

The Glorfindel situation was arrived at originally with the essay GLORFINDEL (I) from LAST WRITINGS HISTORY Vol.12 where the rationale of his return is arrived at and arbitrarily placing him in with the arrival of Gandalf in the Third Age.

Then in GLORFINDEL (II) he is moved to arriving in the Second Age, with a far greater detailed analysis and refinement of the Glorfindel situation.

This text is contemporary with GLORFINDEL (I).

Then in THE FIVE WIZARDS from LAST WRITINGS HISTORY Vol.12 (an essay which is tied directly to GLORFINDEL II) the Wizards are stated as having been sent during the Second Age around the same time as Glorfindel (somewhere between 1,200-1,600 with 1,600 most identified by Tolkien as the probable date).

The names Romestamo (East-helper) and Morinehtar (Darkness-slayer) are equivalents of Alatar and Pallando.
Radagast is also known as Aiwendil, Saruman is also known by Curumo, Curunir, The Wise, Sharkey, etc., Gandalf is also known by Mithrandir, Incanus, Grey Wanderer, Grey Pilgrim, Tharkun, Greyhame, Stormcrow, Lathspell, etc.
I'm sure it's not unreasonable to recognize a second name for the Wizards.

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