The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - View Single Post

Tuor of Gondolin · 10-11-2005, 10:39 AM

Several points:

I believe that Aragorn says he was planning to take Gimli (only?) with
himself, Frodo, and Sam. So the group sent would have still been relatively small, even with Leggy included. Faramir/Boromir would have gone to Minas Tirith with Merry and Pippin, or if captured, then the 3 or 4 hunters would have still pursued them. One can imagine a corrupted Faramir (even Gandalf and Galadriel feared the Ring's power of seduction).

The most interesting change might have been Boromir finding Frodo/Sam
in Ithilien. In that case the movie scenario could well have applied.

And to me it seems clear that it was Eru or a valar who sent the dreams. "Fate"
is a Northern European myth belief, which Tolkien obviously changed in his
legendarium to Eru Iluvatar.

Therefore it was a "mistake" (a sin of pride) for Boromir to insist on taking his brother's place journeying to Imladris, but one turned to good.

10-11-2005, 10:39 AM	#71
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Several points: I believe that Aragorn says he was planning to take Gimli (only?) with himself, Frodo, and Sam. So the group sent would have still been relatively small, even with Leggy included. Faramir/Boromir would have gone to Minas Tirith with Merry and Pippin, or if captured, then the 3 or 4 hunters would have still pursued them. One can imagine a corrupted Faramir (even Gandalf and Galadriel feared the Ring's power of seduction). The most interesting change might have been Boromir finding Frodo/Sam in Ithilien. In that case the movie scenario could well have applied. And to me it seems clear that it was Eru or a valar who sent the dreams. "Fate" is a Northern European myth belief, which Tolkien obviously changed in his legendarium to Eru Iluvatar. Therefore it was a "mistake" (a sin of pride) for Boromir to insist on taking his brother's place journeying to Imladris, but one turned to good. __________________ Aure Entuluva!