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Old 10-14-2005, 01:39 PM   #74
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trust diplomats to ruin diplomacy. A straight-talking orator who says what he feels can achieve wonders
I completely agree.

And Formendacil, regarding your attack on Feanor-
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He ticks off Melkor
Is that bad?
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He ticks off his brothers
All of them ticked each other off. Melkor made sure of that.
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and gets himself banished from Tirion
Quite right. All of the Noldor are influenced by Morgoth, and yet only Feanor is singled out for severe punishment by the Valar.

For doing what? For not being able to resist the power of the most powerful being in all of Ea? That's hardly a crime.

And the Silmarillion says that when the Valar banished him from Tirion it made Melkor's lies appear to be true.

Brilliant move, Manwe! Way to heal the situation! Make the evil bad guy look like he was right all along!

That's the worst thing you could possibly do! It's as if the Valar wanted to push Feanor down the dark path!

I'm sorry, but there is no way we could've expected Feanor to remain unchanged by Melkor's malice. Melkor is too powerful, and his focus was on Feanor in particular. Feanor was going to be affected, just like Hurin the Steadfast was when exposed to Morgoth.

When Melkor's evil was discovered, the Valar should've tried to undo his lies, but instead they took a course of action that made his lies appear to be true in Feanor's eyes.

So, in other words, they made Feanor's condition, which he could not help, even worse!

After that, what do you expect to happen? Good things?

The Valar are most definitely to blame.

No doubt about it.

No question.
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