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Old 10-27-2005, 07:20 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Lalwendë
I had to add this in out of interest. Ungoliant is then pursued by Balrogs and we see how she comes to go into hiding and mate with lesser spiders (if indeed she is a spider at all) and hence produce Shelob. What is amazing here is that Ungoliant may yet be alive!
A terrible thought... Yet it's unprobable. Just imagine what if she had popped up in The War of The Ring and joined forces with Sauron? Or her descendant Shelob? Or what if she had terrorized the free peoples on her own? Or turned out to be hiding in the Mirkwood and attacked wood elves or woodmen?

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
While I tend towards the theory that she is not of the Ainur, I don't think that we can definitively state that Ungoliant was not a Maia. The "darkness that lies about Arda" could still be part of Ea, the Universe, in which Arda lies, and which was created by the will of Eru. A Maiarin Ungoliant could therefore have entered Ea after it had been created and subsequently descended to Arda after the establishment of Manwe's kingdom.
At least some one in some way thinks along the same lines as I do...
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