[Gothmog]

I see your point Bethberry, it depends on how literary you want to interpret the word made. And then we can discuss why Eru is called the One.

But I'm not going to discuss this further. It's up to every one of us what we want to believe and I'm going to leave it at that. In fact, none of us can prove anything, only try to convince others that what I hold for true is true, and as entertaining as it might seem it's really quite pointless. We've reached the point were most of the facts have been studied, right?