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Old 10-29-2005, 10:39 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by The 1,000 Reader
To answer old questions, Sauron is not more powerful than a balrog. He may have been more evil, but that does not mean he was more powerful. He may have been great because he was evil, but a balrog would stomp him into the ground.
Back up your argument, please. I am curious as to why you this... The following is more conjecture than definite evidence:

Besides, when was the last time you saw a balrog lose every fight it entered, with one of the losses being due to its own stupidity? That is proof enough.(No, Gothmog wasn't being stupid when he was killed if I recall correctly.)

Sauron may have beaten Huan if he didn't pull any stupid mistakes like he did in the Tale of Beren and Luthien.[/QUOTE]

Furthermore, how do you square that with this, from the "Valaquenta":

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But he was not alone. For of the Maiar many were drawn to his splendour in the days of his greatness, and remained in that allegiance down into his darkness; and others he corrupted afterwards to his service with lies and treacherous gifts. Dreadful among these spirits were the Valaraukar, the scourges of fire that in Middle-earth were called the Balrogs, demons of terror.
Among those of his servants that have names the greatest was that spirit whom the Eldar called Sauron, or Gorthaur the Cruel. In his beginning he was of the Maiar of Aule, and he remained mighty in the lore of that people. In all the deeds of Melkor the Morgoth upon Arda, in his vast works and in the deceits of his cunning, Sauron had a part, and was only less evil than his master in that for long he served another and not himself. But in after years he rose like a shadow of Morgoth and a ghost of his malice, and walked behind him on the same ruinous path down into the Void.
Overall, the passage could be used to support your thesis that Sauron was merely "more evil" than the Balrogs- but it appears to me to also be a clear statement as to the greater power of Sauron.

Furthermore, Sauron is called the "Lieutenant of Melkor"- and had the command of Angband before the breaking of Utumno.

Again, I'd like to hear some evidence for your rather loud statement there...
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