[Anguirel]

Gothmog raises an interesting point: who will speak for an agressive strategy now Turin is gone?

My answer is: Turin's sister, Nienor. She will sway her husband, whose despised father Curufin started the isolationism of Nargothrond. And Celebrimbor will have influence with the Queen.

Only the sage and knowing advice of Gwindor, and maybe the Queen's own wisdom, will delay such an approach.

This leaves us with several options-evict Gwindor and see if Celebrimbor can persuade Galadriel, or evict Galadriel, let Celebrimbor take the throne, and watch him challenge Morgoth head on.

As for treachery-I don't really see that Celebrimbor's departure will make Mim more likely to turn traitor. Even if he doesn't get Nienor, he'll have been revenged on his rival. Would Maeglin have betrayed Gondolin in the book so eagerly if Tuor had been killed before his capture?

I think Gwindor and Finduilas would both be better options. With Gwindor gone, Finduilas will have no confidante to turn to, and embittered by her rejected bid for the crown may try desperate schemes. With Finduilas gone, Gwindor's life will be empty and nihilistic, putty for Morgoth to work on.

So-my lead candidates are Galadriel, Gwindor and Finduilas, in that order. However, I like, nay, adore, Galadriel, so I'm voting

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