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Old 11-30-2005, 08:21 PM   #2
Boromir88
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Sauron was master. Simply put it was HIS power he poured into it and by claiming it somebody is, in essence, able to usurp a good portion of his power.~mormegil
That's true, and that may very well be the case, that it is Sauron's power that's with the Ring, therefor he's the master. However, he goofed by putting so much in that without the Ring (or even it's powers) he wouldn't be able to survive. And because of that I got to think that in some way the Ring dominates over Sauron, because of the fact that without the Ring he can no longer take a physical form, he will just remain a shadowy menace.

Which comes to the question of the will of the Ring. I agree with Roa in that the ring does have it's own will. It can escape from a bearer if it so desires. When Frodo finds out that it kept slipping off Bilbo's finger he put it on a chain, and since the Ring couldn't slip off anymore, it became substantially heavier each step closer to Mount Doom. Making the journey even more difficult for Frodo. This brings up the question though, is the will of the Ring controlled by Sauron? Being that it's Sauron's own power in the Ring, is it's purpose to get back to Sauron? Or is it just to not be destroyed?

Possibly something else I want to bring up is this quote, also in Letter 131...
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It is beyond the strength of any will (even his own) to injure it, cast it away, or neglect it. So he thought.
So, it's beyond even Sauron's power to throw the Ring away. Let's say for instance if the destruction of the Ring didn't bring about Sauron's destruction, and Sauron knew that, he still wouldn't be able to destroy the Ring. I think this quote shows that the Ring has power over Sauron, in that no one would have the will, or strength to destroy it, not even it's own creator that poured his power into it.

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Exactly why would Sauron put so much of his power into one ring rather than keep it to himself? could he not control the other rings without a ring? did the ring enhace his powers further, even if he spent some of his own powers in its creation?~Farael
Yes, as the quote from my first post points out...
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While he wore it, his power on earth was actually enhanced. But even if he did not wear it, that was existed and was in 'rapport' with himself: he was not 'diminished'.
As to why he would not just keep his own power and why would he put it in this ring? I think it's just an attempt of getting more power, and also of course being able to control all the Rings of power. What's interesting in that Morgoth (and someone may know but I can't find the quote), anyway, I believe Tolkien talked about Morgoth's power was actually diminished because he had spread it out so much that it actually diminished his power. I can't remember where this quote is, I'll try some looking, or perhaps someone can help me out.
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