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Old 01-18-2006, 01:23 PM   #394
Amanaduial the archer
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NB: this post was formulated before Naria made her post - cello lesson...

I am actually mildly astonished by the reasoning in the past Day: I mean, the sheer irrationality of some of the 'arguments'...

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Originally Posted by Lhuna
I'm sure that I will be proved right in saying this when Aman ends up being lynched toDay.
Good lord, woman, I'm sure I don't like the sound of that 'when'! Kuru still has more votes than me - but then, maybe that's why he's getting quite so defensive (for example in the way that he attacks anyone who comments on him at all - for example, #312 when he comments on someone being 'ever more suspicious' when they find him suspicious. Surely this isn't quite right). But as I said previously, I agree with you on this point, Lhuna: whether wolf or not, Kuru is definitely attempting to pull the strings. He's proved that he's smart enough to stay alive so far, but he makes me uneasy, and not simply because of the personal tirades that he keeps launching at me which seem actually slightly reminiscent of Garin's behaviour earlier in the game (the behaviour that got him lynched, incidentally), but also because of his slightly peculiar wording in places. Yes, I accuse you of over analysing me, Kuru, but I'm afraid I must take a moment to look at Kuru's behaviour... He has probably, so far, been the most commanding character in the game. Sure, Gurthang was influential - but he didn't go as far as to start suggesting, and I quote, 'orders' for the other game characters. And the 'I told you so' nature once he's proved right - very keen to make sure that other villagers know that, e.g. he backed Lhuna:

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I thought so. And if you don’t believe me, please go back and reread how I always tried to defend you but not be too obvious about it
It is just like a wolf's cover: Kuru protected Lhuna and was then trying to use it to his full advantage. If he were a wolf, he'd know she was an innocent - this total conviction into someone's innocence does seem to come from a certain definite knowledge, and the wolves (and Seer after a dream) are the only ones who could have that definite knowledge on anyone in the village. Where other people seem at least moderately uncertain about the other villagers, Kuru makes definitive statements about people that seem to come from a certain knowledge about them. This worries me rather.

He also seems to have a very developed gameplan - everything is set out, if he has a theory, he may say that he will 'wait' before revealing it, he made strong suggestions as to exactly who the Seer should dream of and the Ranger should protect, strongly urging the villagers to act one way or the other... It's all so manipulative. And it does sound somewhat like the words of a desperate man, unsubtle as this would be in the game of werewolf.

Ah, Rune resurfaces! However, there are still two seriously unknown quantities: Azaelia and Malkatoj. Farael too, actually: his most recent post puzzled me in that it made no attempt at reasoning behind his vote (although at least he accepted this), and instead simply followed Kuruharan's 'advice'. Hmm. Firstly, I think this nicely highlights the point Lhuna made (and which I made earlier in this post) about his manipulation: apparently, it's working. Also, why does Farael not make an attempt at reasoning? Following in the highest degree, and it worries me: makes these two seem like allies. I don't, however, think I've really seen enough of Farael's posts: generally, they're rather short, and I haven't currently time to go back over the whole thread. But I only have a slight twitching of unease against him: it isn't enough, certainly, to form a vote.

Azaelia and Malkatoj....Azaelia, I have absolutely no idea about. Totally unknown. Malkatoj...hmm, like, apparently, several others on this thread, my suspicion of her is really to do with her absense, although I concede that this is really hardly fair. Maybe she's hiding in order to avoid incriminating her - Malka is new to werewolf I believe, like myself. But I don't really think this is that likely - I mean, yeah, on the one hand, 'prevention is better than cure', but on the other hand, some sort of defence would surely be better - I'm not sure I can make a full judgement on her either from her posts, which is why I am slightly surprised at the amount of suspicion surrounding her, but I will be keeping an eye on her. If I survive the Day

Oh, and as a final remark, I should just like to comment on Naria:

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan
Then toDAY Amanaduial says she thinks Naria is at least “innocent” (without explaining herself), which in effect means she now thinks Naria is the Hunter. This is downright incriminating given her behavior yesterDAY.

(I’m afraid Naria doesn’t quite count as “confirmed” even though I’m perfectly prepared to believe her).
Yes. Aware of that. Don't mean to come off curt, there, but I would have thought that it was fairly obvious from yesterday that I held reservations about Naria - with time, bearing in mind no-one has come forward and people seem quite prepared to believe her today, I'm coming to accept that suspicion around her is certainly dying down at a very rapid rate, although I'm not entirely convinced - I did not say that I thought she was innocent for sure. But when I said...

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Originally Posted by Amanaduial the Archer
Naria isn't actually proven to be innocent: we only have her word on her being a Hunter. I mean, yeah, very likely, but not completely without doubt.
...I was actually contradicting Cailin's post prior to that in which she stated Naria to be the Hunter and a known innocent. My doing it in these words was, probably mostly, to appear less adversarial - I don't believe in hacking people off at the knees every time they make a statement that I don't agree with, although apparently some villagers do.

And as to when you commented on, I quote, "I think you are quite right to demand an answer from Amanaduial about her alleged Hunterness (I personally don't believe it)" - well, actually I never alleged it. I didn't contradict it because when Gurthang first brought up the point, I didn't see the point, it didn't seem like a reasonable concern, more a spur-of-the-moment and rather dramatic post - and then Lhuna brought it up again and it was followed up - and answered as soon as I could that I was not. I never said I was the Hunter, I never knowingly even hinted that I was any such thing - so please don't try to turn it against me, or even use it to promote my death. You wish we had double lynchings? I bet you do: take two innocent villagers out in one fell swoop and even up the odds a bit for you and your ally, whoever he or she is.

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If you are innocent why would you even begin to beat around the bush here? Cailín’s behavior seems much more likely to be an innocent here because she instantly denied being the Hunter and did not do a song and dance routine like this about it.
Call it a disclaimer! I was pointing out what would no doubt be pointed out after I said I wasn't the Hunter, very likely by you. Frankly, Kuru, your world-weary exasperation is beginning to wear a bit thin on my patience and the thread of my suspicion is thickening with it: it just seems to be part of a cover.

So for now, despite my worries on Malka (and my uncertainty on other players who I have no time to comment on in any detail right now), today's vote is for:

++Kuruharan

My, that was disjointed...
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