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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund
If it still helps, I found it:
The Knowledge of the Creation Drama was incomplete: incomplete in each individual 'god', and incomplete if all the knowledge of the pantheon were pooled. For (partly to redress the evil of the rebel Melkor, partly for the completion of all in an ultimate finesse of detail) the Creator had not revealed all. The making, and nature, of the Children of God, were the two chief secrets.
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Thank's for the great quote
Nilp. It's nice to see it in writing. (er, well, text anyway)
Any doubt that I actually had about Men having 'Free Will' outside the Music is now satisfied. Mainly, before, I was holding to the idea that Eru already had a 'plan' for everything, worked out to the minutest detail, and I still do believe that. So when the Books clearly say that the Music is as fate to all but Men, and that they can do pretty much what they want regardless of what it says, it went against what I thought should be. But, as the quote above pretty much states, the Music is not the completeness of Eru's 'plan'. So Men can have 'Free Will', as in outside the Music, while still being held to the course that Iluvatar has set for their existance. I would call that (by that I mean having every bit of your life already set in stone) predestination, and therefore, not Free Will.
Nilp, I did want to ask you:
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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund
Hmmm, let's try not to confuse predestination with the creator's omniscience, okay?
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I don't really see much difference. You can make a push that, although God knows what's going to happen, He hasn't done anything to cause it. Sort of like watching a movie you've already seen. But, to me, that just doesn't fit with who God is.