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Aiwendil · 02-22-2006, 04:59 PM

Gramercy! We've lost the Seer already!?

Well, we're dealing either with a pack of brilliantly perceptive wolves or a pack of bloody lucky ones. I must say I neither expected poor Holbytlass to be lynched nor had any idea she might be the Seer.

This makes much of the Day 1 discussion (centering around the roles of the two Seers) seem completely wasted. And up to a few minutes ago I thought it had been unusually productive.

Well, we must move on. Anguirel is right, meseems, that the False Seer is now completely useless and should probably come forward.

The Day 1 voting record needs to be looked at carefully. There are some things about it that bother me. First of all, there's the fact that Gil-Galad was lynched. I can, to an extent, understand why somebody might vote for him; but I think there were others who looked far more suspicious.

Of more concern to me, though, are the votes against Boromir. I'm afraid I don't understand the basis for the suspicion of him at all. I agree with what Anguirel said yesterday about his posts seeming more helpful than they actually were. But to me, that seems to be a far cry from substantial evidence. I don't consider Ang's vote particularly suspicious, since (it being Day 1) there was little to go on, and we were endeavouring the spread the votes around. But I'm worried by the way Formendacil, Garin, and LMP seem to have latched on to that and made a nearly succesful effort to get Boromir lynched. In the event, they failed - but they did force Boromir to vote for Gil, thereby ensuring Gil's death.

I said yesterday that LMP struck me as the most genuinely helpful villager. When I look back at his posts, they still look that way to me. But I have a hard time reconciling that with his vote for Boromir, and his apparent sudden, fervent conviction that Boromir should be lynched. Still, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, on the basis of his general helpfulness yesterDAY.

That leaves me with Formendacil and Garin; both look fairly suspicious to me right now. Perhaps they'd care to explain their votes?

The other person I'll be watching carefully today is Tar-Ancalime. YesterDAY, she was my top suspect. While I admit that the DAY 1 evidence was slim, I still can't help but feel that she has been "testing" various approaches (moratorium on Seer talk, suspicion of Spawn) and then very quickly backing off when they come under fire. Her vote for Eomer looks like a typical, random DAY 1 vote - but it also looks like a fairly safe vote for a Wolf.

YesterDAY, I also suspected Glirdan, largely because he looked like a Wolf playing a fairly safe game. While I have no reason to change that opinion, and therefore I still consider him a possible suspect, the other people I have mentioned now look more Wolvish to me, overall.

So the people I intend to look at especially closely toDAY are Form, Garin, and Tar.

Edit: Crossed with Mormegil and Glirdan.

02-22-2006, 04:59 PM	#112
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Gramercy! We've lost the Seer already!? Well, we're dealing either with a pack of brilliantly perceptive wolves or a pack of bloody lucky ones. I must say I neither expected poor Holbytlass to be lynched nor had any idea she might be the Seer. This makes much of the Day 1 discussion (centering around the roles of the two Seers) seem completely wasted. And up to a few minutes ago I thought it had been unusually productive. Well, we must move on. Anguirel is right, meseems, that the False Seer is now completely useless and should probably come forward. The Day 1 voting record needs to be looked at carefully. There are some things about it that bother me. First of all, there's the fact that Gil-Galad was lynched. I can, to an extent, understand why somebody might vote for him; but I think there were others who looked far more suspicious. Of more concern to me, though, are the votes against Boromir. I'm afraid I don't understand the basis for the suspicion of him at all. I agree with what Anguirel said yesterday about his posts seeming more helpful than they actually were. But to me, that seems to be a far cry from substantial evidence. I don't consider Ang's vote particularly suspicious, since (it being Day 1) there was little to go on, and we were endeavouring the spread the votes around. But I'm worried by the way Formendacil, Garin, and LMP seem to have latched on to that and made a nearly succesful effort to get Boromir lynched. In the event, they failed - but they did force Boromir to vote for Gil, thereby ensuring Gil's death. I said yesterday that LMP struck me as the most genuinely helpful villager. When I look back at his posts, they still look that way to me. But I have a hard time reconciling that with his vote for Boromir, and his apparent sudden, fervent conviction that Boromir should be lynched. Still, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, on the basis of his general helpfulness yesterDAY. That leaves me with Formendacil and Garin; both look fairly suspicious to me right now. Perhaps they'd care to explain their votes? The other person I'll be watching carefully today is Tar-Ancalime. YesterDAY, she was my top suspect. While I admit that the DAY 1 evidence was slim, I still can't help but feel that she has been "testing" various approaches (moratorium on Seer talk, suspicion of Spawn) and then very quickly backing off when they come under fire. Her vote for Eomer looks like a typical, random DAY 1 vote - but it also looks like a fairly safe vote for a Wolf. YesterDAY, I also suspected Glirdan, largely because he looked like a Wolf playing a fairly safe game. While I have no reason to change that opinion, and therefore I still consider him a possible suspect, the other people I have mentioned now look more Wolvish to me, overall. So the people I intend to look at especially closely toDAY are Form, Garin, and Tar. Edit: Crossed with Mormegil and Glirdan.