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Originally Posted by Anguirel
You Parliamentarians, the Mod is Mod and his power is absolute. If you don't like it, work against it, but he provides the frameworks of the game and that gives him certain rights.
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I would draw the line at the right to make the game completely pointless if the fancy strikes. If his power is
that absolute I will simply leave the game -- it's the only sure course of action for us little people to take. But the reason, make no mistake, will be because I no longer think the game worth playing.
I would like to remind people of
this post made earlier in the thread. In it, Form lays out the revised rules, which seem to me too ambivalent, but I will go with them for now.
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Originally Posted by Form
This is, don't forget, a Tolkien-based game. So, I would like to see, if possible, some reasoning, preferably Tolkien-based, no matter how illogical or distorted, to accompany your votes.
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It says "preferably" Tolkien-based, but not "most-definitely", and it says "no matter how illogical or distorted" so that means reasonings related to a game-play strategy are admissible.
So let us review today's votes, taking the stated criteria for "rationale" into play:
Morm kicked things off with a vote for Elrond citing personality faults.
1 for Elrond.
Ang followed up with a vote for Sauron, citing his inferiority to the Witch-King.
1 for Sauron.
Spawn reiterated her detailed attack on Elrond from the day before.
2 for Elrond.
Kuru voted for Cirdan citing his too-long stay in Middle-earth.
1 for Cirdan.
Tour voted for Cirdan, citing his beard.
2 for Cirdan.
I came along and took stock of the situation, found a tie needing to be broken, and after some thought found the contestants pretty equally matched. Because I still thought the tie ought to be broken, I used the
reasoning that I did not approve of certain of Elrond's supporters' actions.
3 for Elrond.
Eonwe kickstarted the Oropher vote, citing the character's lack of oomph and criticizing the reasons for the voting thus far.
1 for Oropher
Estel voted for Elrond, citing good arguments by
Spawn and others.
4 for Elrond
Celuian voted for Oropher, agreeing with
Eonwe.
2 for Oropher.
Elu voted for Elrond, citing his lack of manliness, and also a desire to protect Cirdan and Oropher.
5 for Elrond
Kuru changed his vote to Elrond, citing a desire to matter in the vote tally, which I grant could or could not be taken to mean he agreed with the reasons of those against Elrond.
1 for Cirdan, 6 for Elrond.
Gil-Galad voted for Anarion, citing a long held vendetta against the character.
1 for Anarion.
He then made a deal with Kuru to cast a vote against Elrond in return for future support against Anarion. To me, this falls under the same reasoning as why he wants Anarion gone (which I am assuming has been stated earlier, correct me if I'm wrong).
0 for Anarion, 7 for Elrond.
LMP cast a vote for Narvi, citing various Tolkien-based reasons.
1 for Narvi.
Jenny voted Amandil, for being dense.
1 for Amandil.
phantom voted Oropher, citing unworthiness due to obscurity.
3 for Oropher.
lord voted Oropher, citing the fact that Phantom ordered him to, lest he be spanked. Oops, I mean, he agreed with Phantom.
4 for Oropher.
Firefoot voted Oropher, citing uselessness.
5 for Oropher.
Final vote count? 7 for Elrond, 5 for Oropher, 1 for Cirdan, 1 for Sauron, 1 for Narvi, and 1 for Amandil.
And YET, according to Form's final vote count, Elrond only got 6 votes. And then he proceeded to disqualify 4 of those for whatever reason. So out of the votes I listed above, which 5 were completely devoid of any reasoning at all? Remember, Form officially only said that complete Tolkien-based reasoning was "preferable" not "mandatory".
As to Oropher, he lost 2 votes. Yet all 5 of Oropher's votes cited the exact same reason, save perhaps lord-of-dorlomin's initial reason.
The only fair and open deductions I can see were perhaps Kuru and lord, though those are also rather debatable. This would bring the count to 6 for Elrond and 4 for Oropher. If you are to discount the votes of both Kuru and Gil-Galad, and keep Lord's vote, it still comes out to a TIE of 5 and 5 votes each, meaning both should go. If you discount Estel, you are making the rather broad assumption that even though he cited Spawn's reasoning, he didn't actually truly agree. If you discount me, you declare my reasoning invalid simply because it was not purely Tolkien, which I say ought not to be mandatory.
Anyway, I believe my case is now not only rested, but beaten brutally and thoroughly to death, and pushing up daises. RIP.