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Old 03-19-2006, 03:44 PM   #168
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Well. I’ve been reading through all Kitanna’s and Firefoot’s posts now, in the light of both Fea’s first day analysis and Boro’s “testament”, and trying to fit them to what we know now – and what we don’t.

My inclination is to say, that they are both innocent villagers, but with Firefoot I’m more confident about it. The big difference between them is, that Firefoot seems to be logical and straightforward all the time, whereas Kitanna could be seen as really a wolfish one at the beginning, but then turning her ways totally to become a genuinely unsuspected one: that beginning can of course be explained by the “first day”, and that’s indeed the reason, why I’m leaning more towards her innocence.

And before you read forwards, please take note of the following (I don’t want to be accused as a bloodthirsty-one again...): I have have read their posts as kind of a Devil’s advocate, looking at them basically as wolves. So this is hypothethical, not substantial, with either of them...

But see for yourselves:

Case Kitanna:

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Anywho, I see Fea is abusing the retractable votes deal early on. Why am I not surprised?
Teaming with the other wolves with idle, but positive chatting?

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His first three points can be seen as reasonable, but his fourth point is more of an attack on anyone who can't get on often. Despite his overeagerness to get the silent ones I'd hesitate voting for him (at this point at least). I feel this move on his part is too wreckless for a wolf. But still Nogrod has raised a few warning flags, yet, for me it is too early to make a desicion that can comdemn him.
Defending my reasons, but still attacking me. That's the wolf's way: keep the suspicions up for the overall suspected villagers on, but detach yourself from them a bit.

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Now Morm is a shifty one, but I'd say between Nogrod and Morm, Nogrod is the more susipcious. But I've been toying with the idea that those two are in cahoots. It seems a wreckless move on DAY one for a team of wolves to attack each other like these two appear to be doing, but it is not utside the realm of possibilty. That's just a loose theory and not something to act on today.
From a wolf's point of view, just a perfect match: theory of two innocents having a very daring wolf-to-wolf alliance! A smart wolf could try this kind of a thing? We are at the early hours of the game still by this post...

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Next is Gil for his short and unhelpful posts. While getting him on day one seems like a good idea even if he is innocent we run the risk of killing a gifted innocent. Gil probably won't change his gaming style regardless of his role, so I prefer to hold out a day before casting down a vote for him.
A wolf would defend a "known-to do-nothing-at-all" -villager in the first day, as to not lose a very good asset later on.

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Fea is Fea. I have neutral feelings toward her. Nothing to condemn her or to save her.
Note the neutrality!

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++Kuru
He's a dangerous enemy and I'm actually afraid of him (and Boromir and Morm for that matter). But for the most part this is random.
A safe vote for a wolf? And laying suspicion over Boro & Morm at the same time?

2nd day, Fea dead.

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Jenny seems to be pretty petty (and she said so herself in her first post today). She voted for Gil and then retracted it and changed it to Nogrod because "Nogrod's tone in his post against you, morm, annoyed me greatly." That sort of jumped out at me. Is she trying to defend Morm? Trying to hop on an innocent's back?
Jumping to quite quick conclusions here? Forming another wolf&wolf conspiracy with Morm in it (now Morm & Jenny)?

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Boromir and Kuru seem to have engaged themselves in a battle early on today. As well as Jenny following Boromir's lead and accusing Kuru. Given Fea's history in these games and her early "joke" vote for Kuru Boromir's first post makes a good point. But there's plenty of room for doubt.
Admitting the suspicions of Boromir (wise for a wolf...). But read the next:

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I am more inclined to see Kuru as a wolf, but there's enough doubt for me to hold out on voting for him. The day is still relatively young and I don't want to jump to any conclusions yet.
How could one see this, without some specific knowledge? Securing oneself as seeing Kuru being a goner?

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Now there's Boromir. He seems awfully sure of himself. It's quite unnerving, but if he's right and Kuru is a wolf then we owe him a great deal of thanks. If he's wrong he's damned himself. But bear in mind even if he's wrong there's still a chance he was a misguided innocent.
Quite unnerving, for a wolf at least! Is this a slip of some real thoughts? BUt then there starts the "defence" of Kitanna.... Her reminder of the possibility of B being a misguided innocent, seems to speak for her innocence?

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Thank you, Diamond, for providing me with Jenny's Fea defense. She made the post minutes before voting closed. I find it hard to believe Jenny really thought Fea wasn't going to get the noose and it's just too sloppy of a move for a wolf to make. If Jenny knew when day was going to end I don't think she would have made such a statement unless she really thought Fea was innocent.
Really innocent looking & emphatic post. Seemingly really understanding Jenny's reactions. WIth really devilish eyes, you might read this as a trial of a wolf to help a controversial villager to make still another day...

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I trust Boromir, if he were a wolf I don't think he'd be so bold.
What else could you do? A wolf or a villager alike would make this statement...

Sorry: this seems to be quite a job. I'll send this one now, and be posting the Firefoot-part within a short while.
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