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Old 03-19-2006, 06:00 PM   #405
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Day 2:

Spawn:
Mentions that I had spoken before Ang made his post and agrees that Ang’s death possibly makes me and Eomer look bad, but doesn’t think so really. Links Ang to Eomer and suggests Eomer is a wolf. Points out that Ang spoke out a lot against Glirdan, but she doesn’t think him a wolf as he has been posting normally. Possibly an indication that she dreamt of him, found him innocent and is dismissing him from her suspicions, but that’s a stretch.

Looks again at Lhuna, making a case against her and finds her actions and words seem wolvish. Now if she did dream of Lhuna that’s pretty damning evidence, but if not it’s simply speculation. It is, of course, impossible for us to know which.

Voices some suspicion of Naria. Again could be a dream, but I think it would be far less likely for spawn to dream of Naria than Lhuna given the choice.

Makes a point of repeating that I posted before Ang, but I don’t know which direction that’s pushing in.

Pretty cross with Eonwe for his unreasoned vote but says she won’t vote for him.

Seems to feel that the wolves taking time out on Night 2 to specifically set me up is a little farfetched. Thinks it’s possible I am a wolf, but after she begins that train of thought she stops claiming it confuses her. Is defending me far more than accusing me. I’m not harping on about this really, I’m just trying to work out where the idea that spawn was blatantly accusing me of wolvishness came from.

Picks up on Lhuna’s ‘a wolf either way’ comment. Votes Lhuna claiming that the arguments of others have swayed her. Now if she dreamt of Lhuna and wanted to get her lynched without revealing herself to be the Seer that has to be one of the best ways to go about it. And this post combined with that idea is seriously swaying me toward the ‘Lhuna is a wolf’ camp.


Lhuna:
Quote:
I was afraid that Anguirel might have been an extremely bold Seer; thank the Mod God he isn't.
This has been quoted a lot and seemed to start off the suspicion of Lhuna. Why should it be so wolvish? Is it not possible that she was simply thankful that the wolves had not got the Seer? I’m not saying it isn’t the first option, but there are two possibilities here. And yet there is still the matter of not breaking this double lynch. It really does speak against her, but it’s so obvious! I just can’t help thinking a lupine Lhuna would be more subtle.

Defends herself about leaving the double lynch as it stood, saying she couldn’t vote for Guy due to principles. This again has been taken as a wolvish statement but again it seems too bold. But Lhuna could well be a bold wolf.

Tar-a picks up on Lhuna’s use of ‘we’ when speaking of saving Garin and though I think this is a little pedantic the point remains that she could be trying to ally herself with a group of innocents. If Lhuna is a wolf perhaps those she included herself with should be viewed as innocents, that’s Ang, Lommy, Form and spawn. Well we know two are – Ang and spawn.

Lommy begins to make a case against Lhuna over her reluctance to take sides. Now Lommy can’t realistically accuse anyone of flip-flopping when she herself does it so often, but the scenarios she gives are acceptable. Her scenario 3 seems to be following the same lines as my mind toDay, except that I think Lhuna did ponder her vote, and chose to go with her principles. However, that doesn’t exclude the possibility that her principles helpfully coincided with her wolvish desire to let the tie stand.

Put on Eomer’s suspect list due to, apparently, her thinking Glirdan and Garin were innocent and being worried about it. Not much reasoning there.

Gives a simple defence, reiterating her reasons for not breaking the tie. It’s a calm defence too, but I’m not sure whether that speaks in her favour or suggests she’s a cool wolf.

Cailín is somewhat suspicious of her as is Gurthang. But nothing concrete from either of them.

Samwise repeats his reasons for suspecting her and they are fair ones but seems quite happy to switch his vote to someone else. Odd that.

Has some support from Lommy over the ‘wolf either way’ comment. However as I think Lommy innocent that doesn’t help much.

Samwise votes for Lhuna based on his earlier suspicions, presumably because no one better turned up.

Has some support from Cara, who thinks the comments that spawn and others picked up on were blown out of proportion (which I tend to agree with).

Lhuna returns and repeats her defence, answering questions thrown her way. She does keep pointing at Samwise, with good reason for some things but it seems more like she’s trying to shift the suspicion from her to him.

Argues against spawn saying she too left the tie and voted elsewhere, but this is unfortunately incorrect. Spawn voted after the tie had been dealt with. It looks here like Lhuna is trying to ally herself with spawn, and if Lhuna is a wolf then she is trying to ally herself with a known innocent (to her). Votes Eonwe because of the silly vote.

Suspicion from lmp because of the ‘Ang. . .Seer’ quote and the ‘we wanted to save Garin’ quote. Votes Lhuna due to her digging herself into a hole.

Cara votes Lhuna because she seems more suspicious than Eonwe.


Farael:
Explains why he didn’t become suicidal and why he defended me rather than Eomer or Glirdan. Then, within a post, switches from defending me to accusing me. His options are a little rigid for my liking (but then they would be, they make me guilty either way) and I don’t think they cover all of them. The case is there, but it’s not solid.

Cailín has him at the top of her suspect list.



Ok, well, I obviously don’t like Farael’s point of view as he is making a case against me. As to everyone else doing the same thing, if you are basing this on spawn’s words then please go back and reread them, as I really cannot find anything she said that would make me out to be a wolf. Everything she said about me was vague and flip floppy, especially in comparison to what she said about Lhuna.

And as for Lhuna, I did not want to think her guilty, I still don’t. But looking at the evidence from the last two days and the sheer strength of the arguments against her, as well as support of those arguments from a Seer . . . well.

++LHUNARDAWEN

Oh and looking at that most recent post from Farael, why is he completely ignoring Lhuna? His suspect list from his words goes Kath, Lhuna, Guy, but his order of lynching goes Kath, Guy.
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