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Old 03-21-2006, 07:07 AM   #476
tar-ancalime
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my thoughts on Glirdan's posts

Glirdan:

DAY 1

#15 says that double lynches are useful to the wolves

#41 responds to Ang, overly heated, but that's in character for Glirdan

#44 defends tgwbs for his self-vote

#45 nothing of substance

#82 defends Farael against me; suspects Garin as part of an if-we-lynch-tar-ancalime scenario. Where did this come from?

#85 responds to Garin, who was responding to his #82

#90 says he'll probably vote for Garin

#95 sums up the votes so far; votes (fourth) for Garin, saying "his fate is sealed" and "I'm probably wrong on this"

#98 explains his vote farther: he meant to vote for Garin all along but didn't realize how many others still had yet to vote (?)

#101 nothing of substance; refers to himself as a villager

DAY 2

#167 offers to analyze Valier and Caranlondien

#168 analysis of Valier; questions why she voted for him instead of Formendacil

#171 analysis of Caranlondien; casts suspicion on her by misreading her post about "the true lumberjack" as referring to Anguirel; says this makes her vote for Ang look suspicious

#192 apologizes to Caranlondien for #171; defends his new, more active posting style; suspects Naria for being quiet

#235 a smorgasbord of defenses, accusations, and strategy. Here's a sample:
Quote:
I'm not so sure that they would completely forget about framing the rest of us. But I do agree that they probably far more interested in findig the Seers then framing us. Yet, I think that they would (subconciously mind you) still attempt to frame others. I find that this would be a pretty good way of smoking out a Seer. If someone attacked one who was an innocent and the Seer knew that person was innocent, I believe that the automatic reaction would be to defend that person. In doing so, the Wolves would go for that person. That seems to be the case with what happened to Ang.
Defends his "new style" again, more than once. Reads Lhuna's "damned if I do, damned if I don't" comment as a confession--this looked silly at the time, but now I'm wondering how he knew that.
After a quote from Formendacil, regarding Samwise, Glirdan says he's suspicious of Gurthang. Huh?
Says Cailin and Formendacil are the Lovers; accuses Cailin of being jealous of all the attention Lhuna is getting.
Defends himself against Eomer; this is the most serious matter in the post and he leaves it till last. Eomer is saying that Ang's death looked bad for Glirdan (Ang voted for Glirdan on Day 1.) Looks much more relevant after Eomer's death, no?

#243 says he'll correct the error in #235 (in which he accuses Gurthang instead of Formendacil; the error stands). This error, imho, makes #235 look even stranger: it means he's accusing Formendacil+Lhuna and Formendacil+Cailin of being Lovers. Says he's not surprised at the suspicion against him.

#245 votes for Naria for being quiet

DAY 3

#338 attributes my statement to Thinlomien (maybe not so bad, but it does cheese me off); weighs in on the early version of tgwbs's plan (says it's unlikely that the wolves will continue to attack a female each night, using Ang's death as evidence); defends himself against Eomer again. Again, this is the most serious thing in the post, and again he buries it at the bottom. Says he's going to analyze spawn and eonwe.

#340 analysis of eonwe. I thought this was odd at the time, and I still think it's odd now. Eonwe was (a) innocent, and (b) lynched. No need to figure out why he's dead from his posts; wouldn't it make more sense to look at his accusers? Could this be another attempt to seem helpful without really contributing anything? (Someone else mentioned this in reference to his analyses of Valier and Caranlondien, each of whom had posted about three times at the time of his investigations.)

#351 a partial analysis of spawn's posts; draws no conclusions at all but notes that spawn said he was "acting like usual."

#399 finishes his analysis of spawn; decides that she likely didn't dream of either Lhuna or Kath.

#412 says he doesn't know whom to vote for. Notes that there are cases against both Lhuna and Kath; says there's not much pointing to Kath as a wolf; thinks Kath or Naria is the (non-wolf) Lover.

#414 says Kath is a wolf and votes for her

DAY 4

not here yet

This looks pretty bad for Glirdan in my opinion. I'd welcome alternative analyses, though. (I've made my editorial comments as I went along.)
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