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Old 04-14-2006, 07:54 PM   #122
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Well, I have never seen this kind of mass-analysis before! It kind of exhausts even a dedicated WW-fan! There is much that is overlapping, but then again, cross-checking each others analysis is safe - so that the wolves can't twist them to their ways.

But I'm wondering, why no one analyzed Spawn, as s/he (good grief: s/he probably lives under 10 miles from me, and I don't even know, whether she is a he, or he a she...) is one highest in my suspicion list after doing my analysis...

Spawn's attack on Roa was just a case out of the blue (the reasons were pretty bad, if you look at them closer), the arguments against my plan just plain suspicious, and then the vote without anything more ado - from someone who wanted reasoned cases, not hunches!

For the case of shaman dreams, just look at this (not to ask for any merit for my bad idea, but to see the reaction to it)
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It is easier to hide a dream into a good case since there will be so many of them around anyway (I hope) that the orcs can't tell which one of the arguments is based on a dream. And if the orcs should kill the one who had the dream, we shall see easily, whom that person dreamed of.
Now this is just pure maddness! No reason at all! But very good tactics for the orcs, if people believed this... It's nice, if the orcs don't know, which defence came from a dream, but then neither will we have an idea about the dreams, and us villagers will waste them with all the probability. This shaman system puts us in disadvantage already: why should we give the orcs still more to play on? And how could we "see easily" whom someone dreamed of, as we don't have the faintest about who living or dead dreamt in the first place? All this orc-propaganda?

Afterwards Spawn backed down on this - as I protested, but still tried to have it on somehow, saying, that the shaman would know, whom s/he deamt of. Surely would, but why on earth would an orc lie about the person dreamt of (and get caught by that) - they should only lie about the status of the dreamt person!!! and that's in no way known by the shaman. Spawn's arguments are bad, but still he tries to wrench us behaving in confused manner?

I'm not against good cases. That's what we will need. But swindling is serious...

I don't claim to have a "case" against Spawn, but would really like to hear Spawn's answers to these questions... (eg. artificial suspicions on Roa + vote with nothing more + asking villagers to play against our own best)
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