[The Saucepan Man]

Mmmm! Tasty rat’s tails.

But now to business.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

However, on the Goosey Owl question, what if said Goosey Owl came up with, not a Duck, but a list of "known innocents"? Think of the confusion....

Possibly. But Goosey Owl would have to wait (and survive) a fair few Days before being able to do that. It is entirely unbelievable that an Owl would declare on Day 2 or 3 (mormegil’s hypothesis) with naught but a handful of innocents.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

It worries me when peopel I know aren't stupid act stupidly. Saucepanman isn't ringing true to me.

*Bridles in an Orcish manner*

Might I ask in exactly what way I am acting “stupidly”? You may be right, but I wasn’t aware that I was, so it would be nice to know. And why exactly am I “not ringing true”? You did refer to my disquiet over your use of the word “league”. At that stage, very early in the day, I was simply throwing out suspicions here and there based on what little had been said in an effort to see if anything stuck. Doing what ordos are supposed to do - probing and prodding for signs of Duckish reactions. It was just something that jumped out at me, and it would not have meant much if not for your subsequent reaction. You seem very jumpy to me. And your accusations of spawn and me have no substance to them at all. Merely an unjustified “acting stupidly” and “not ringing true”. Oh and seizing on my first “in character” post for being insubstantive. To my mind, this all smacks of a Duck trying to make out a case against those she has targetted, but with very little to go on.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

NB I have just checked before posting - and seen SpM's latest post which I find somewhat reassuring.

Hmm, backtracking on me because your case against me was looking somewhat threadbare? Yet you vote for spawn simply on the basis of a rule query. Granted, it might be a ploy. But it seems to me much more likely that it was genuine. And it hardly constitutes good grounds for voting for someone who, if innocent, may prove very useful to this village. Again, it looks to me like you are trying to construct a case out of nothing against an opponent you perceive as dangerous.

I know that Mithalwen is no longer around to answer these points. But I see enough there to justify a vote against her. I may well go ahead on that basis. For now, however, I hesistate simply because Mith too is someone who will undoubtedly prove a redoubtable ally if she is innocent.

At the moment, my other main suspects are Nilp, for reasons stated earlier (although I am inclined to give him a chance and see how he acts tomorrow), Valier, for posting and being around without saying much of substance, and Kath, for much the same reason.

As far as Kath is concerned, I think Ang put it rather well when explaining his vote for her:

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Kath has acted as a sort of clarifier but entirely eschewed involvement herself.

Although she has since gone some way towards making amends.

I also rather agree with Ang that mormegil is acting somewhat “Goosey”. But I am prepared to wait and see what his further contributions may bring.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Spm. before you go on just disrepute away a discussion, I hope you would pay heed to my post #70 and come up with some real arguments. I said it earlier: the ducks will gain from rhetorics, personal authority, throwing things off as self-evident etc.

Nogrod, I have considered all that you have said, and I have not changed my mind. I have said just about all I really want to say on your proposals. To my mind they risk causing confusion, diverting the village away from its true goal and possibly putting the Owl in a spot. I have set out my reasons at length and they are “real” enough as far as I am concerned. If you disagree, well that’s a matter for you. The fact that you continue to pursue this hopeless cause mystifies me. I still think that, were you a Duck, you would be foolish to do so. Perhaps that’s what you want us to think, but you do seem genuine enough to me, albeit misguided. I am by no means convinced of your innocence, but I am inclined to to give you the benefit of the doubt for now. But please, enough of the Owl talk. Let’s start hearing your theories on who the Ducks might be.

I have a while before I must vote. Time to review the proceedings to date ...